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To: Triple,golitely,Uncle Bill,Betty Jo,archy,Wallaby,Fred Mertz,ChaseR,Chapita,Plummz,nunya bidness,
I have been writing about this connection ever since 9/11 on FR in replies and in articles. I have been talking to a reporter on this story at the Boston Globe since 9/11 (this started at Boston's Logan airport remember?!)and they are not happy with what they have found so far with FBI failures and arrogance under Mueller and Ashcroft and Freeh and Reno which if not present may have made the 9/11 attacks less likely.

This includes evidence the Boston Globe knows of and has written about concerning the FBI, under Bush and Mueller, ignoring repeated warnings from active FBI agents form Chicago and Minneapolis as well as attorney David Schippers. It also includes evidence that the FBI knew the hijacker pilots were training in OKC flight schools for two years for terror attacks on buildings with the help of Hamas an Iraq terror individuals in OKC right up until the time of 9/11.

I have been getting bashed by those who do not like my writing about the bad appearances of Bush lawyer connections with these Saudis and Holy Land. GWBush has been involved in business deals with Mahfouz before his Presidency as well. And GW Bush ordered the FBI to not investigate Saudi business connections in the US involving the Bin Laden family one month before the 9/11 attacks.

These are all facts which must be examined and investigated if for no other reason than maintain public trust and put changes in place that will prevent Saudi terror businessmen men from putting Bush and the country in any further danger.

In all fairness Clinton was involved with Mahfouz and knew about Holy Land and Hamas connections just like Bush and the FBI (since 1993). But this should not remove the FBI , DOJ and Bush from close public scrutiny and criticism to make sure they do not repeat any mistakes or bad policies that do not do an adequate job of preventing terror attacks within the US. The buck does stop with the current President not just Clinton. Bush is now responsible for correcting any mistakes and bad policies of his personnel (and even ones he may have made) and anyone leftover from Clinton administration now serving in the Bush administration especially since Bush has been publicly and privately briefed and told about these failures.

InfoCom, next door to Holy Land was raided by the FBI on 9//6/2001, just 5 days before the 9/11 attacks. InfoCom ran a website and transferred funds for Holy Land and was a nerve cell for terror group transactions including Hamas and ALQeada and the Saudis. InfoCom also ran a website for Iraq.

A Washington Post article on January 30, 2002, "Bush Seeks to Restrict Hil Probes of Sept 11" by Mike Allen reported that Bush was trying to convince Congress to hold only closed door, secret hearings and no public hearings on the failures of the FBI and CIA that led to the 9/11 attacks.

I think public hearings need to be held on these failures to make it more likely that any failures will not be repeated and to make the necessary changes in policy, personnel and procedures. Not holding public hearings and keeping these matters too secret will also in the long run erode public trust and confidence in the war on terror at home by the FBI, CIA and the Bush administration in my opinion.

I believe public and closed door hearings can be held while protecting legitimate security and intelligence issues.

15 posted on 02/11/2002 10:20:51 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Cicero,Enemy of the State,zog,Wm Bach,Lion's Cub,backhoe,rdavis84,LiberteeBell,rubbertramp
BUMP!

Please see reply #15.

16 posted on 02/11/2002 10:27:20 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Here is the link for the Washington Post Article about Bush asking that Congressional hearings on the failures of the FBI and CIA under his administration be restricted to only closed door, secret hearings:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59376-2002Jan30.html

The link is still good.

19 posted on 02/11/2002 10:32:40 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Reading stuff you posted and hearing Dick Morris on GVS prompted me to check into the Vernon Jordan/Holy Land money to terrorists connection.

glad you found this.

Regards,

20 posted on 02/11/2002 10:36:23 AM PST by Triple
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To: OKCSubmariner
I saved this thread since I figure your posts will probably be yanked again.
89 posted on 02/12/2002 3:46:38 AM PST by Wm Bach
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