Posted on 02/09/2002 11:06:53 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
RE-IMPEACH. CONVICT. DETHRONE.
DISBAR. DE-PENSION. DE-LEGITIMIZE.
INDICT. CONVICT. IMPRISON. DISCARD KEY.
(EXECUTION FOR TREASON OPTIONAL)
FReegards...MUD
"I can't imagine such political ignorance."
I reckon I oughtta feel mighty honored that such an omniscient ol' veteran as yerself sees fit to spend so many paragraphs tutoring such an Ignoramus as myself, hunh? Still, I believe your impassioned argument for triangulation is a recipe for the continued deterioration of our individual rights and the future success of America as a whole.
"Mudboy Slim thinks about only in terms of what pleases him. The name of the game is to get enough support from the 2/3 of the population that does not and never will support your position."
Actually, I'm thinking about what is best for the Country, and that is not to continue our unceasing slide towards Socialism as we make excuses as to why a collectivist future is inevitable. You can claim that "2/3rds of the population does not and never will" support the devolution of Power from the Federal Bureaucracy back to the States, Localities, Neighborhoods, Families, and Individuals, and I will admit we've got a lot of educating to do. However, you seem to cynically discount the fact that Centralized Decision-making has been demonstrated to be a failure whenever and wherever it has been tried. Sure, the Left controls most of the Mass Medyuh, the Education System, Hollyweird, the lion's share of the non-profits and philanthropic foundations, and of course the huge Federal Leviathan, but we've got the Truth on OUR side and that still matters. Increasingly, we've seen the impact of alternative sources of media (talk radio, some periodicals, and the Internet) have in getting this Truth out to the masses. We need to build upon this, not throw in the towel and aggressively implement our adversaries' agenda until we somehow get 60 GOP Senators!!
"If Bush were to fight Daschle, guess what happens in the fall elections? Such a fight causes the middle to say the hell with both sides. When the middle see both the Democrats and Republicans as bickering fools, who wins?"
Who says we need to be "bickering fools"? What we need to do is pick issues that we can win on and differentiate ourselves from the RATS, then debate the issues shamelessly and tirelessly. Allowing a percentage of our Social Security to be invested--at our option--in Personal Retirement Accounts is one such issue. Medical Savings Accounts are another such issue. School Vouchers are another issue on which we can gain voter share. Each empowers the Individual over the Collectivist Bureaucracy. For those who favor the supposed security of the Federalized option, they should be insured that they can keep with the same system they now use. This is the way to advance the Right's Agenda AND gain Voter Share; instead of fighting over who can be the most "compassionate" in spreading around Government Largesse.
"The only victories that the right enjoys is when the public sees them as the party trying to get along and the Democrats as those wanting to make trouble."
Sir, with all due respect, this is absolute moolarkey!! Dubyuh's daddy attempted this strategy in '92 and we got Clinton. Then, in '94, the GOPers used the "Contract with America" to differentiate ourselves from the RATS and we won a huge victory. After we chickened out in the Government shutdown and buckled, we nominated the "Tax Collector for the Welfare State," Bobdole who is the quintessential go-along-to-get-along candidate and we got whupped by a demonstrably-corrupt Billzabubba who was ripe for the pickin'!! The GOP gets our heads handed to us when we try to be DemonRats II.
"When the Democrats attack the Republicans and the Republicans fight back, the media helps the Democrats."
So it has always been, but increasingly the Sheeple have come to understand this bias and account for it.
"When the Democrats attack and the Republicans don't fight back, the media first comes down on the side of the Democrats. Then they see the middle is rooting for the underdog. So they take on the Democrats. It seems that even very stupid people could figure out the game is stacked against them."
Since you've already pointed out my "ignorance", I must assume this "very stupid" comment is addressed to me as well...but I have always known the game is stacked against us. The National Media needs National Issues to be addressed by an ever-expanding National Government. State, Local, and Individual Solutions to problems do not Expanding Ratings Shares make!! But to claim that the Media and the Sheeple are "rooting for an underdog" when the Left is rolling over Right is ridiculous...when the Right shows no spine, the jackals smell blood and pour on the vitriol all the heavier.
"The only time this nation has moved from the right to the left or vice versa is when one party controls 60 votes in the senate, a majority in the house and the presidency. When that is the situation the nation is moved one way or the other. The only game worth playing is trying to get to that position."
So, the right should continue growing the Federal Government as desired by the RATS for as long as it takes to get 60 GOP Senators?! Sorry, sir, but that could take forever if the voters perceive the GOP to be weak step-sisters to the RATS. I do think we can gain a 60-seat majority because I believe the ever-expanding Federal Leviathan has become increasingly-indefensible, but we will only be successful if we show the voters how the right would accomplish scaling Collectivism back and how it will benefit--and empower--them!!
"Nixon gave a little to the left hoping for approval. He never got it."
Actually, Nixon gave quite a lot to the Left (wage/price controls, the EPA, etc.) and the Left sensed weakness and pounced. I fear Dubyuh could be walking into the same trap.
"Mudboy demands that Bush squander this chance by fighting over small items in the near term. But the long scheme to win the senate by 60 working votes is all that really matters. Mudboy wants Bush to do what Reagan did which is just go for limiting government growth. Reagan makes Mudboy happy."
Elsewhere, you've already pointed out that Reagan failed in limiting government growth, but I was happy with Reagan's ability to win the Cold War over the Evil Empire of Collectivists. Since that battle has been fought and won, I believe the next battle to undertake is against the Evil Left in our own Country, and we should be prepared to fight America's Collectivists with every bit as much passion and resolve as we fought the Soviets...yes, that would make Mudboy happy.
"Sixty percent of the public is against what we want to do. Just as sixty percent of the population is against what the Democrats want to do. The wishy washy 20 percent in the middle wants to do nothing. They keep saying,"Can't we just get along?" The object is to get the 60 percent opposed to the Democrats to vote against Democrats and for Republicans. To do that Republicans have to keep their heads down and make sure the Democrats a$$es are up. That is the current situation."
I guess this is the core of our disagreement, my learned yet somewhat mean-sprited FRiend. I don't think you can win a mandate voting for the other guys' Agenda and saying, "Hey, we're not as bad as the other guys." Only 40+% of eligible voters vote anyway, and it ought to be our goal to give folks something to vote FOR, while still accepting the votes of those who simply--and understandably--vote AGAINST the DemonRATS. There are a lot of voters who have become disillusioned by too many years of Republicrat/Demoblican Milquetoast Moderation...let's not take them for granted and we should see an impassioned turnout for the Right in both '02 and '04!!
FReegards...MUD
Who knows?
You might just be "The One" to do the impossible.
My friend?
Please: fully understand your goal here too, before you start.
Because if you were able to do so much as even 1 third of the things you're suggesting be done?
The impossible is exactly what you'd accomplish.
Fame & fortune beyond your wildest imagination would be your's for the taking.
...that's all I gotta say.
Well said, all the way through.
My goal is clear, mi amigo: the Devolution of Power away from the Federal Leviathan and back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as clearly stated in the United States Constitution. I expect all those I support politically to hold this Principle sacrosanct as well. Of course, Political Success is always dependent upon what is actually possible, but those elected officials who do not hold this Principle above all others will get swept up in the natural Inside-the-Beltway Inertia favoring Federal Guv'ment Growth.
Elected office...wouldn't that be a hoot?!
FReegards...MUD
FReegards...MUD
Yea, it sure would.
Want to have another hoot?
I was serious.
You're honest, articulate, extremely well researched/informed & most of all, passionate about the *cause*.
Can't buy passion, y'know; at any cost.
One either has passion; or, they don't.
As we all know, the nation was founded by some very passionate men & their women.
One of the few prerequisites one must possess before they may ever be recognized as a patriot?
Is that they be passionate in their beliefs concerning Liberty, Justice, & God.
But, be advised; passion can be corrupted.
...happens all the time.
Each night I leave the barroom when it's over
Not feeling any pain at closing time
But tonight your memory found me much to sober
Couldn't drink enough to keep you off my mind
CHORUS:
Tonight the bottle let down
And let your memory come around
The one true friend I thought I'd found
Tonight George Dubyuh let me down
I've always had a bottle I could turn to
And lately I've been turning everyday
But the wine don't take effect the way it used to
And I'm hurting in an old familiar way
Tonight the bottle let down
And let your memory come around
The one true friend I thought I'd found
Tonight George Dubyuh let me down
Tonight George Dubyuh let down...
Pre-FReep...MUD
I wish a buck was still silver,
And it was back when the country was strong,
Back before Elvis, and before the Vietnam War came along...
Before the Beatles and "Yesterday,"
When a man could still work, and still would!!
Is the best of the free life behind us now?!
And Are The Good Times Really Over For Good?!
Are we rollin' downhill like a snowball headed for hell?!
...With no kind of chance for the flag or the Liberty Bell?!!
I wish a Ford or a Chevy, would still last ten years like they should.
Is the best of the free life behind us now?
And Are The Good Times Really Over For Good?!
I wish Coke was still cola, and a joint was a bad place to be...
And it was back before Nixon...lied to us all on TV!!
Before Microwave ovens, when a girl could still cook, and still would...
Is the best of the free life behind us now?!
And Are The Good Times Really Over For Good?!!
Are we rollin' downhill like a snowball headed for hell?!
...With no kind of chance for the flag or the Liberty Bell?!!
I wish a Ford or a Chevy would still last ten years like they should.
Is the best of the free life behind us now?!
And Are The Good Times Really Over For Good?!!
Stop rollin' downhill like a snowball headed for Hell.
Standup for the flag, and let's all ring the Liberty Bell.
Let's make a Ford and a Chevy that'll still last ten years like they should.
The best of the free life is still yet to come,
And the good times ain't over for good.
Pre...MUD
"The instant this administration makes their actual intent known by doing something as noble, honorable, & seemingly innocent as being honest with this nation?? They'll be insodoing committing the SAME critical & strategic mistake we've seen time & time again from our Right-wing pols. Dubya wouldn't even be finished speaking when The Associated Press & their presstitute minions of evil Leftist imps & harpies would snap-into action; going to work in ernest REdefining, *interpretting*, stating-as-fact what the "real, hidden agend(s)" are & spinning the stated goals into anything that may be criticized, damned, critiqued...yea. Then ultimately, when the time's *just* right & only after the knuckleheads have been kneaded into nice, soft blobs as a result of the constant diet of misinformational media-gruel? The liars will start doing what they do best; out-n-out lie. And Slim? The AP animals will be believed by our neighbors & many on this very forum, my friend."
Yeah, buddy, but they're doing that anyway...why shouldn't we go on the offensive?!
"There're simply too many precedents the past eight years proving my assertion beyond a shadow of a doubt. The Socialist-Democrats with their Communist *inspired* modus operandi I'm thinking has finally met its match."
"No. I *think* our guys are doing *something* just a bit different this time around; can feel it in my bones. Now you did of course, hear about the media's "role" at the first official dinner party hosted by Dubya & his lovely bride?? Yea. Media's "role" was outside...the gates. :o) I'm guessing our POTUS has put into motion a *new* way of dealing with the media monsters & their insideous behavior; things for the *media* might've just taken a turn for the worse? As well Dubya should do something *radical*; he's *nothing* to lose by getting tough as the demon-media's "big" plans for him have been made abudently clear by how they've already covered the man's administration to date. Plans that're seemingly [kinda] obvious? Yea: Screw him, tatoo his SSN on the hemorrhoid they inflict, & not eeeeeeven pause to say, "Thank You" after they're finished; & Bush knows that, I'd suspect. Dubya's simply not going to permit his administration *or* himself to be handled in such a crude fashion by this *special* lot of insane media-animals. Really Mudboy; Dubya's nothing to lose by getting tough with these commie punks a'tall, IMO. I mean; whadda they gonna do? Give him *bad* press? BWWWAHAAAA; they're gonna have to do that with a LOT of absent quotes & outright guessing which'll provide the administration PLENTY of opportunity to, correct their poor "reporting" skills?? {g} Worked for Reagan. No one hated Reagan more than the same Leftist-losers permeating the same Leftist media, eh? In any event, we're going to be among the first to find out what this POTUS-man & his team actually do when all's said & done, don'tcha think? All we'll need-do is shut-up & watch; leaving the guy alone so he can work?
Still think we ain't givin' Dubyuh enough space to perform his incredible feats of political derring-doo?!
"Ohh...BTW, please don't go equating 'the rabble known as the colony rebels' with the Vast, LeftWing, anti-America, Socialist DemocRAT Whores...just ain't Right!!"
"I agree wholeheartedly. So. Why don't you read [that] again; only this time? Be thinking of, "the rabble known as the colony rebels" in the context of being *us* & our side? The way I'd intended it? Try it."
We ARE "the colony rebels," so why are we afraid to offend the King?! Just on account that he's OUR King?
"199 Posted on 09/08/2001 14:08:11 PDT by Landru [on Black I]"
FReegards...MUD
Good evenin', ladies...MUD
"Hate crimes" is anti-Bill of Rights, un-American and un-Godly. Checks and balances? Who checks the Senate?
Will be on the phone tomorrow...calling MS. Collins, etc. How dare they waste time on this monstrosity after last week's inquisition of the administration. Pitiful, skewed bunch of people up there. How much does an exorcist cost? (really (^:)
The Constitution used to, but these Effete Elite PowerWhores believe they are divinely chosen to legislate Hate and Sorrow out of the Human Existence!! Meanwhile, they sow incalculable resentment amongst the Sheeple with their unending quest to define increasing percentages of Americans into small groups of individuals with conflicting national agendas. We could cut the Federal Guv'ment to one-quarter its present size and no good, hard-working American would know the difference...trash every Senator who gives this Steroid Issue the time of day!!
"Will be on the phone tomorrow...calling MS. Collins, etc."
I reckon Senator Allen will be on the Right side of this issue, but we'll have to give Sen. Jawn Wahnah's staff an earful if we've got any hope of stiffenin' that LameBrain's spine against the PC onslaught sure to follow this legislation.
"How dare they waste time on this monstrosity after last week's inquisition of the administration. Pitiful, skewed bunch of people up there."
Exactamundo, mi amigo...MUD
Wouldn't T-Mac's Corruption be a wonderful issue in the Fall Campaign?! It would certainly bring Der SchleekMeister's Criminal Wrongdoings back to the forefront just as we re-examine Slick's Treasonous Dereliction of Duty in Protecting this Nation Against Terrorist Attacks!!
FReegards...MUD
I can't see Big Jawn voting AYE on this lousy bill. But I'll be watching!
This is exactly the sort of thing Warner supports to buttress his Centrist credentials...he's such a cross-dressin' worm!! I am gonna call tomorrow, though, just to hear his official stance prior to the actual VOTE.
FReegards...MUD
Bump.
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