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To: billbears
Satanism is a Christian derived spoof of a religion. Satan is a figure derived from Christian theology, one my faith does not believe exists. Witchcraft accusations were usually derived from fears derived from the effects of eating rye grain contaminated by ergot that caused LSD similar effects, and all humans have had their unreasonable hatreds and pulled power trips over other humans as long as our species has been around. The founding fathers had their strenghts and weaknesses in their beliefs, and as they are dead, people around now are going to have their different opinions on what those even were.

So what is it you are asking; stop not saying what you say I was saying? Those writing the U.S. Constitution were wise in framing the right concerning freedom of religion as they did. It saves me having to waste time fighting for my right to have my right to my religion. That is one of many reasons I still support and defend that document. And I never would have gone in the military if I were not into defending it.

As for your questions concerning gays, I see no real interest in a free and open discussion with anyone refusing to hate them. Fine with me, as I stated in my last post, I am not going to change the lock on the debate this particular virtual community has on a particular portrayal of homosexuals, and in this you indeed have the right to be wrong collectively in that.

I am also not interested in hearing any insult to my faith that I usually see following cryptic comments concerning Witchcraft. You can be of Wicca and be of the left or right wing, just like in Christianity, and some Christianity interprets the Bible differently concerning Gays and Lesbians, and as a non-Christian, I am not going to explore that either, as I am not interested in hearing that I am out to slam Christianity. It is pone of the world's latgest faiths and I respect it, just as I do the Jewish faith, and Islam. You have your spin and opinions on things and I have mine. Just as I have a right to my religion, and you have the right to yours.

I believe we have directions from Jim Robinson and his representative who work as moderators to leave the religion issue at that, therefore I will. Respect of religious differences, and freedom of religion is a good foundation to any belief system.

108 posted on 02/11/2002 6:07:10 AM PST by ThreePantherEightyDuce
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To: ThreePantherEightyDuce
I believe we have directions from Jim Robinson and his representative who work as moderators to leave the religion issue at that, therefore I will. Respect of religious differences, and freedom of religion is a good foundation to any belief system.

Wicca, witchcraft, satanism, scientology, those which laud the sins of greed, lust, avarice, sloth, et al, are not valid religions, created by God. There can be no respect extended to such false religions. By wishing to debate homosexuality and wicca on a conservative forum exposes you as a disruptor. Have a really nice day, by the bye.

109 posted on 02/11/2002 6:22:31 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ThreePantherEightyDuce
The founding fathers had their strenghts and weaknesses in their beliefs, and as they are dead, people around now are going to have their different opinions on what those even were.

I am also not interested in hearing any insult to my faith that I usually see following cryptic comments concerning Witchcraft. You can be of Wicca and be of the left or right wing, just like in Christianity, and some Christianity interprets the Bible differently concerning Gays and Lesbians, and as a non-Christian, I am not going to explore that either, as I am not interested in hearing that I am out to slam Christianity.

I'm not challenging your right to believe whatever you want to. If you want to believe that trees can fly, then fine, believe it. What I am challenging is the constant leftist attitude that your right to believe in flying trees(or rocks for that matter) came from the Founders when historical documentation shows that to be a false statement. The Founders gave us the right to freedom of religion to protect the religious institutions and not the state (by their own statements, not what we believe those statements to mean).

That's not attacking yours, mine, or anyone else's religion. But it is attacking the baseless claim that the Founders were being all inclusive as so many use for their own purpose today

110 posted on 02/11/2002 6:24:29 AM PST by billbears
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