[exmarine]

Even if they were all atheists, there would still be problems with your statement, since most of them can explain where moral standards come from (although you personally may not like or agree with those explanations).

Anyone with any training in logic knows that objective moral standards (universal) cannot exist without God. Without God, they are necessarily manmade and therefore subjective not objective. Thus, they can posit an explanation, but I will rip it apart for its lack of logical coherence. Would you like to try?

[OWK]

Anyone with any training in logic knows that objective moral standards (universal) cannot exist without God.

Not to rain on your parade or anything.... but can you logically prove the existence of God?

[BlackbirdSST]

Anyone with any training in logic knows Hey exmarine, where do you go to get training in logic? The same place you get training in common sense? Sorry, you're either born with it, or without it. You either have a logical mode of thought or you don't. You either have common sense or you don't. It cannot be taught, it can be honed. Blackbird.

[The Green Goblin]

Anyone with any training in logic knows that objective moral standards (universal) cannot exist without God. Without God, they are necessarily manmade and therefore subjective not objective. Thus, they can posit an explanation, but I will rip it apart for its lack of logical coherence. Would you like to try?

According to God's "absolute moral standard", is rape always wrong?

[The Green Goblin]

Anyone with any training in logic knows that objective moral standards (universal) cannot exist without God.

Without God, they are necessarily manmade and therefore subjective not objective. Thus, they can posit an explanation, but I will rip it apart for its lack of logical coherence. Would you like to try?,

While re-reading your statement, I realized that I misquoted you. Let me rephrase my question: According to God's "objective moral standard", is rape always wrong?

[The Green Goblin]

"Thus, they can posit an explanation, but I will rip it apart for its lack of logical coherence."--exmarine, post #312.

Not only did you not rip apart my arguments for their lack of logical coherence, but you didn't even address them at all. Perhaps you will not engage in empty boasting next time.