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To: Ol' Sparky
Evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

By making that statement you have demonstrated either profound ignorance or exceptional intellectual dishonesty. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the first. The Second Law applies only to closed systems. Go outside sometime and observe the huge fiery ball in the sky bombarding Earth with energy.

251 posted on 02/07/2002 10:04:26 AM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: ThinkDifferent
NO, you've demonstated YOUR ignorance:

“...there are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated [closed] systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems ... there is somehow associated with the field of far-from equilibrium phenomena the notion that the second law of thermodynamics fails for such systems. It is important to make sure that this error does not perpetuate itself.” [Dr. John Ross, Harvard scientist (evolutionist), Chemical and Engineering News, vol. 58, July 7, 1980, p. 40]

"Increase in entropy means a transition from a more orderly state to a less orderly state. . In any naturally occurring process, the tendency is for all systems to proceed from order to disorder." —*R. B. Lindsay, "Entropy Consumption and Values in Physical Science, " American Scientist, September 1959, p. 382.

"The quality of entropy generated locally cannot be negative irrespective of whether the system is isolated or not." —*Arnold Sommerfeld, Thermodynamics and Statistical Mechanics (1958), p. 155.

"Evolutionists . . [say that] the Earth, in particular, is an open system; and that in an open system strange things may happen to the entropy, and to everything else. . Some [evolutionists) say that there was a great increase in entropy in the Sun, or in outer space, or somewhere; so that a spontaneous decrease in entropy on the Earth [therefore occurred] and is not surprising. The idea seems to be that an increase in entropy in one place can atone, so to speak, for a decrease in another. It is rather as if one were to expect a small pot of water, put onto the fire, to freeze, provided a larger pot put beside it boil . . But, surely an increase in entropy in one place has to do with an (alleged) decrease in another only if there is some connection of cause and effect between them. And, needless to say, such a connection has not been demonstrated." —H. L Armstrong, "Evolutionistic Defense Against Thermodynamics Disproved," . in Creation Research Society Quarterly, March 1980, p. 227.

"Entropy is a property which is defined for and true of each and every part of the universe. There is no evidence whatever than there is a region of the universe where the second law does not apply. Laws of science are universals and the denial of this fact is question-begging." —*J.P. Moreland, Universals, Qualities, and Quality Instances: A Defense of Realism (1985).

381 posted on 02/07/2002 11:07:27 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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