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Is Free Republic becoming increasingly hostile towards Social Conservatives?
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Posted on 02/07/2002 8:02:41 AM PST by watsonfellow

In the past few months I have noticed that the posters on Free Republic have become more and more hostile towards social conservatism.

And I do not mean indifference (less pro life threads etc) but an outright hostility at pro life and other social conservative causes.

Am I alone in thinking this?

In particular, notice the responses to the thread concerning the recent request by social conservative groups to the FCC to reign in Fox's racey primetime programs.

I wonder if this is becoming only a haven for hedonists and libertarians, and if so, perhaps it would be better for social conservatives to find their own site.


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To: jwalsh07
if it was me I would have stopped after you called him that name, what was it a peckerwood sniffer?

Is this humor or are you really that illiterate?

61 posted on 02/07/2002 8:33:05 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: watsonfellow
There is a loud and noisy gaggle of loons at FR who believe that conservatism = anti-tax, anti-police, and pro-gun, and little else. A subset of this group would add pro-dope to the mix. Like their socialist comrades they despise notions of Judeo-Christian morality and all that it implies.

Politically they are bodies without spirits, dead and stinking up the fields of conservatism.

I welcome getting bashed by them. It reassures me I'm on the right path.

62 posted on 02/07/2002 8:33:09 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: watsonfellow
In particular, notice the responses to the thread concerning the recent request by social conservative groups to the FCC to reign (sic) in Fox's racey (sic) primetime programs

Oh, by the way, the word is 'rein' as in 'reining in a horse'. I think you made a freudian slip with 'reign'.

The government does not 'reign' over us, nor can it 'rein' in our behavior. Only we can.

You make a good show, but you're not very bright.

Are all the 'Watson Fellows' so dumb or are you just the bottom of the pile?

63 posted on 02/07/2002 8:33:34 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: watsonfellow
You are not alone in thinking this.
64 posted on 02/07/2002 8:34:03 AM PST by michaelje
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To: watsonfellow
1. You can't be thin-skinned on FR

2. FR is different than many websites I've seen in the fact that FR is home to real "thinkers".

3. Social conservatives are in abundance on FR (of which I'm one).

4. FR is home to freedom-loving Americans who may see the abortion issue, and other issues like it, as an open door for government intrusion.

5. Stand your ground and argue with facts and sound reason and perhaps your point of view may prevail.

65 posted on 02/07/2002 8:34:18 AM PST by Jagdgewehr
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To: Cernunnos
First, Buckley is a social conservative.

Second, I think you should read "The Meaning of Conservatism" by Roger Scruton.

Conservatism is not (despite what you libertarians claim) about stuffing your pocket with more money. This is a shopkeepers, Manchester type of ideology and has always been understood to be opposed to conservatism.

66 posted on 02/07/2002 8:34:28 AM PST by watsonfellow
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To: chookter
Forgive me, I am using a french keyboard as I am in Tunisia, a francaphonic country.

Yes, you are right, I am very stupid and I appreciate your pointing this out....Hmmmm, maybe I should just burn my PBK pin.

How mature, name calling? What comes next?

67 posted on 02/07/2002 8:36:30 AM PST by watsonfellow
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To: watsonfellow
Here's the link for the thread you're referring to:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/623538/posts

Unless there is some other thread you're talking about, I couldn't help but notice that you didn't post on that thread. If you disagree with the arguments that others made there, why didn't you post it there? Why waste bandwidth with this vanity?

68 posted on 02/07/2002 8:36:39 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: tonycavanagh
This is just an aggressive site which is why I like it, on any thread on any subject you will get flame wars going, all you do is know your facts, stand your ground and beat the other side down.

I agree with Tony.

While I think the observation is a valid one, I would not assign the increased anti-social conservative activity to the site itself. As with society in general, social conservatives should make their case, and the truth will be known.

This should not be a hideaway for us "fundies" to avoid confrontation. We should welcome the challenges and be steadfast in knowing that liberals will make there entrances on this board using the label of "libertarian", "moderate", or something similar. This does not make all self-identified libertarians, atheists, agnostics, and "moderates".....well maybe the moderates....into automatic political liberals.

Stand the ground. Be proudly conservative. Choose your arguments with careful conviction. Agree wherever agreement can be reached rather than accept a single dispute as all-encompassing.

The true liberals reveal themselves sooner or later.

69 posted on 02/07/2002 8:36:52 AM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: watsonfellow
I wonder if this is becoming only a haven for hedonists and libertarians, and if so, perhaps it would be better for social conservatives to find their own site.

No, it is what free market neo con worshippers of Mammon and Big Business would like us to do. Hang on and be patient. The truth will prevail.

70 posted on 02/07/2002 8:37:22 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: The Green Goblin
You mean liberaltarian, like the Netherlands? Where they legalized drugs and now that nation is a haven for drug dealers with a sharp rise in losers high on drugs? Or where they legalized prostitution and have seen a dramatic increase in children being used as prostitutes?
71 posted on 02/07/2002 8:37:22 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: watsonfellow
ACTUALLY, he opposes government intervention in "sin". Example: he opposed making drugs illegal. I have heard him many times on a number of subjects. If you want to prove your point to me, give some evidence. I stand by what I've said and heard.
72 posted on 02/07/2002 8:37:52 AM PST by breakem
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To: jwalsh07
'Pecksniff' is a perfectly legitimate word.

Not all words that you don't know are dirty y'know.

If watsonfellow was so bright and all, he would know that word.

73 posted on 02/07/2002 8:37:56 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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Big Government is Immorality.
74 posted on 02/07/2002 8:38:07 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: watsonfellow
Depends on what issues. I'm generally libertarian(small l). I'm also pro-life and probably 95% of freepers here are pro-2a, which are considered social conservative issues.

If you talk about censoring TV using govt power, you'll find a majority of people against it and rightly so. On gay issues, I generally take an approach that gets me attacked from both sides. Keep it out of the schools and boy scouts, but what people do in their homes is their own business. I'm outright hostile to the war on (some) drugs since it is against the 4th amendment.

The key issue is government intervention. The government that governs least governs best.

75 posted on 02/07/2002 8:38:11 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: exmarine
I am sure there are different strains of libertarianism and some probably do believe in moral standards - they just can't explain where the moral standards come from.

Your statement assumes that all libertarians are atheists, which is definitely not true. Even if they were all atheists, there would still be problems with your statement, since most of them can explain where moral standards come from (although you personally may not like or agree with those explanations).

76 posted on 02/07/2002 8:38:32 AM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: watsonfellow
This will become a libertarian vs conservative thread. Enjoy.
77 posted on 02/07/2002 8:38:49 AM PST by Huck
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To: Ol' Sparky
You mean liberaltarian, like the Netherlands?

The Netherlands is socialist.

78 posted on 02/07/2002 8:38:50 AM PST by OWK
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To: chookter
Watch out for the vocabulary conservatives
79 posted on 02/07/2002 8:38:51 AM PST by breakem
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80 posted on 02/07/2002 8:39:07 AM PST by michigander
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