Is Free Republic becoming increasingly hostile towards Social Conservatives?

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[watsonfellow]

In the past few months I have noticed that the posters on Free Republic have become more and more hostile towards social conservatism.

And I do not mean indifference (less pro life threads etc) but an outright hostility at pro life and other social conservative causes.

Am I alone in thinking this?

In particular, notice the responses to the thread concerning the recent request by social conservative groups to the FCC to reign in Fox's racey primetime programs.

I wonder if this is becoming only a haven for hedonists and libertarians, and if so, perhaps it would be better for social conservatives to find their own site.

[Virginia-American]

I never claimed *anything* will put a stop to lying. I'm just saying they'd have one less thing to lie about, and fewer opportunities for corruption. Not none, just fewer.

[budwiesest]

This is so good I thought it should get tossed out once more:

Social conservatives are the greatest enemies the conservative movement must overcome. We won the Cold War. Most people, except Castro and the cultural elite, understand the benefits of the free market. September 11 blew away the liberals' idea of appeasement and peace-love crap. Here's the final frontier: separating the conservative movement from the modern-day puritans and busybodies.

And the way to do it would be for everyone to agree that the best plays came out of the original 'play book', unlike the 'living document' that masquerades as our Constitution. ('Living' my ass, it's condition is a reflection on our condition, someone get the paddles! Clear!!)

[headsonpikes]

"...Suffice it to say, there's a lot of work to be done."

LOLOL!!! I'm with you there!

[Roscoe]

Corporate officers enjoy limited liability for corporate debts. If you paid money for your dancing lessons, demand a refund.

[Snuffington]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but most of us Buchananites are still here.

Not bursting any bubble of mine. I didn't want the Buchanan conservatives to leave.

By no means did all of Buchanan's supporters leave FR. But a lot of Buchanan supporters did leave when the Buchanan versus Bush debate threads lead to a lot of bannings and hurt feelings. A few have returned. But a lot of them have not.

[Kevin Curry]

Great post. Well-thought out, and well-written.

[Ol' Sparky]

Reagan was a conservative, not a libertarian. That means he was for small government, but also for justice in regard to behavior that harmed society. The Founders created the freest nation on earth and favored laws against adultery and sodomy. They, too, were conservative, not libertarian.

[Roscoe]

The FCC enforcing the contract it has with a broadcaster, which includes a decency clause, is quite different from jailing the broadcaster.

Well said.

[eno_]

True but beside the point. Without limited liability, the investors could be liable for debt in proportion to their ownership, rather than LIMITED to their paid-in-capital.

To illustrate how this is beside the point, consider an unlimited liability entity. The officers could have protection from liability because they are just a kind of employee. Whereas Lloyds names, who do not work for Lloyds, much less are they officers, are not protected from liability. Lloyds's employees, not being names, are not held liable. Get it?

[mafree]

..And I hear Daschle's pro-life..

Whaaaattt! That's the first I ever heard of that!

[mountaineer]

I say, old man, killing your thread! It's an outrage. Those irksome fellows! I daresay some people just don't appreciate intellectual acuity when they see it.

[FreedomIsSimple]

You focus on the money aspect of the war, how will it better society to loose on it millions more drug addicts?

I dispute the statement that legalization will bring higher use. Historical statistics do not support this claim - please provide evidence.

Will each of these citizens pledge that we have no responsibility to them when they ruin their lives?

Please elaborate. If you mean that it should not be the government's responsibility to care for morons who ruin their health with drugs, I agree.

do we have to pay for drug rehab for those who just wanted to try and got hooked?

Nope.

Now that it will be easier to get and easier to get it to kids how many children must suffer so the dopers can have their freedom.

False, inflammatory statement. Ask any teenager - alchohol is much harder for a teen to get than illegal drugs. Drug dealers don't card for age, you know.

[Ol' Sparky]

No, libertarians are coming around to the ACLU's position and rejecting Ronald Reagan's ideas.

Legalizing drugs and other activities that cause mass destruction in a society have always been one of the goals of left-wingers. In fact, drug legalizes is similar to other left-wing ideas that both Communist Party supported in the USA in 1963 that liberaltarians also support.

Communists and libertarians, common goals in the past 40 years:

Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

[FreedomIsSimple]

The people who I have personaly seen struggle with addiction never thought it would happen to them

Ah, now I see where you're coming from. I, too, lost a close family member to alchoholism. Horrible death by cirrosis. Addiction to anything is a horrible thing - I can barely function without my morning cigarette and a cup of coffee. That's also addiction. The question is, what do we do about it? You say "throw them all in prison", if that person is addicted to an unpopular (and therefore illegal) substance. I don't see that as being very helpful, honestly. I say, help them as much as possible (personally, not via the government), support local treatment centers, etc. But the War? Evil, and causes more harm than good, and as a kicker, doesn't help the problem of addiction whatsoever. It just wastes money, erodes vital civil liberties, and kills innocents.

[Ol' Sparky]

ROFLOL....You've got to be kidding. Anyone that would compare the Second Law to restore artwork is an utter moron that has no clue what the Second Law means. Who doesn't understand the Second Law now?

The least you could have come up with is the silly sun example, which is completely unscientific but wouldn't have made you look like complete moron.

The Second Law states ALL physical systems are going from order to disorder, using up available energy, decaying and headed toward maximum entropy. That includes the earth and everyone on the earth.

The Second Law applies to all systems, open and closed and to every part of the universe.

Living species are only exempt from the Second Law temporarily because of created mechanisms for storing and converting energy. However, the Second Law would have wiped out life in its earliest forms if evolution had occurred since simple organisms could not withstand the Second Law.<P.

[palo verde]

hi habs
Virginia-American's post #505 is profound I think
Love, Palo

[evilsmoker]

Sorry, I guess I took it the wrong way.

And as far as the topic of this thread goes, I like it when those from the Dark Side post on FR. It livens up the place. Who want's to argue politics w/a bunch of people who agree w/you?

[Tennessee_Bob]

Here. Let's try this.

REUNITE GONDWANALAND!!!

[exmarine]

Of course, "rape" is always wrong. duh. If a baby results, however, that is God using evil for his good purposes. Abortion should be banned for rapes. It is not the innocent baby's fault it was conceived in a rape. Is that where you were going with this?

[FreedomIsSimple]

Ol' Sparky translation:

Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

This translates to opposing government censorship of the arts.

Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

This translates to favoring the 1st amendment as protecting all speech, not just popular speech.

Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

This also translates to favoring the 1st amendment as protecting all speech, not just popular speech.

Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

This translates to opposing the persecution of individuals based on their private, non-violent behavior

I am proud to adhere to all ideals translated above.