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Child shot in head by off duty cop during school demo
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Posted on 02/06/2002 11:44:28 AM PST by inflorida

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To: gridlock
What is a LEO?? I am guessing it is an acronym, but what does it stand for?

I remember one time I walked up to (it was at work) and a couple of guys I knew were looking at a gun. It was some kind of .38 revolver, 3" barrel....Colt, I believe. (I inserted those details for the gun enthusiasts..not really relevant) Anyway, I wandered up to take a look, just in time to have it pointed at me..I said "Hey, watch where you are pointing that!!! The response??? You guessed it..."It isn't loaded." The person handling the firearm was trying to become a cop, by the way. I just looked at him, and walked away.

401 posted on 02/07/2002 4:00:16 AM PST by stylin_geek
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To: stylin_geek
Law Enforcement Officer.
402 posted on 02/07/2002 4:16:02 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: supercat
Yep, but at that point in the thread, I don't think it was known that she had dropped the gun. Barring a dropped weapon, my statement still stands.

It is also worth noting that her weapon didn't go off when she dropped it, it went off when she picked it up. I'll bet she put her finger in the trigger guard when she did that.

403 posted on 02/07/2002 4:22:47 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: ArrogantBustard
no, the citizenry should be armed, the cops should not be...
404 posted on 02/07/2002 4:42:44 AM PST by Capt.YankeeMike
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I was reffering to the regional units that the FBI has not to the national unit. Perhaps the regionals are called Hostage Recue Teams also I do not know. Thank you for your response.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

405 posted on 02/07/2002 4:56:20 AM PST by harpseal
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To: LoneGOPinCT
Yes, but the average person is a moron, therefore the government needs to protect us from them.
406 posted on 02/07/2002 5:13:16 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Shooter 2.5
Thank you.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

407 posted on 02/07/2002 5:15:54 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Ajnin
Thank you.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

408 posted on 02/07/2002 5:16:00 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Marine Inspector
Its th Glock 27 that you are looking for. I own it and love it. If you live in the south(well, Florida), I have found it(and any Glock) hard to conceal in the summer, which is about 6 months down here. Its thickness can be unconfortable and hard to actually conceal in light clothes. Its also somewhat heavy, which makes it nearly impossible to carry while wearing certain types of pants(basketball type shorts, beach shorts, or something without a belt). Otherwise, its a great gun.
409 posted on 02/07/2002 5:28:38 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: good_ash
Accoring to the link helpfully provided by Shermy, the officer dropped the gun; it hit the floor and discharged.
410 posted on 02/07/2002 5:31:46 AM PST by TwakeIDFins
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To: TwakeIDFins
When I was in school and Officer Friend came to visit, he NEVER showed us his gun except to point at it in his holster, where it belongs when in a school setting. Why would he even take out his gun.

Shouldn't the police talk to students about: Just Say Know or We are your friend when you need us, or Here is how to dial 911...??? NOT ...Yes, kids, this is my shiny new gun...what have these presentations come to?

I WILL handle firearm education with MY children, not the local police department.

This is very disturbing.

411 posted on 02/07/2002 5:38:51 AM PST by Woodstock
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To: Woodstock
That should have been, Just say NO not 'Know'
Maybe it should have been, Just say ...OOOOOOPPPPPPssssss......DUUUUCCCKKK!
412 posted on 02/07/2002 5:43:42 AM PST by Woodstock
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To: Eaker
The anti-Glock sentiment on this board is based soley on ignorance. Note NO ONE could respond with any anti-Glock facts.

Post 76. My glock really did blow up in my hand using factory ammo in the middle of a match with many witnesses. Nor was there any indication of an overcharged round on the backstop. I figure it was a failure to go fully into battery, but with the slide far enough forward to engage the trigger. With the round not fully supported in the chamber, it blew out every moving part in the gun and mashed the mag out the bottom. That said, the chances of it happening have to be less than 1 in a million given the large number of glocks in the world, and the gun always manages to go bang, one way or the other. I still carry one, figuring I've had my one Kb!

413 posted on 02/07/2002 5:44:01 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: illbenice
He had a loaded gun pointed in some ones direction?

Cops are notoriously bad about this. At my local gun range, I was going over my shooting when the owner asked if he could see my gun.
Needless to say I dropped the magazine out and cleared the barrel before handing it to him. His response? "You're not in law enforcement, are you?"
I said, "No, why?"
And he told me how a cop recently wouldn't clear, even when he insisted. Finally, the cop relented a bullet flew out.
Freaking amazing.
(Besides, I know I'm a much better shot than they are...)
414 posted on 02/07/2002 5:45:05 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: coloradan
Why should it give gun owners a bad rep when it was a police officer who made this mistake? Note that the gun grabbers parrot how only the police and military should have guns.

Remember what the grabbers parrot, "Guns are bad, guns kill people." Reality is that this is the message picked up by the presstitutes and fed to the sheeple, who generally take what is fed to them. For all intents and purposes, you can throw the fact that it was a cop out the window. A gun was the story. Perception is reality in the PR war. Anyone with a gun in their possession, professional or otherwise, is harmed by a situation such as this.

415 posted on 02/07/2002 5:55:25 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT
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To: RonDog
My error - she w/hyphenated last name. Definite moron alert.

prambo

416 posted on 02/07/2002 6:09:55 AM PST by prambo
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To: DETAILER
There is no excuse for this guy. Send him back to security guard, armed with a cell phone and a flashlight. Had a LOADED gun, pointed it at a child in a demo, and managed to pull the trigger? Total incompetence.

How do you know it was a guy?

417 posted on 02/07/2002 6:14:27 AM PST by Osprey
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To: FateAmenableToChange
My glock really did blow up in my hand...

I had exactly the same thing happen with an Israli Galil of the 7.62mm variety. It hurt! The weapon evidently fired even when the bolt was not all the way closed and part of the casing exposed to the magazine. The reciever was split and bulged out about 1/4 inch.

418 posted on 02/07/2002 6:16:07 AM PST by GingisK
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To: harpseal
Unit Profile

Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) - Federal Bureau of Investigation

The FBI's Hostage Rescue Team is the primary unit responsible for counterterrorist operations within the United States.

HRT operations are directed out of the Strategic Information Operations Center, located on the fifth floor of the J Edgar Hoover Building in Washington DC. In times of crisis, the SIOC operates 24 hours a day and serves an effective intelligence collection and dissemination site as well as a centralized, albeit distant, command post. When in the field, HRT can be augmented by the local FBI division's Special Operations Group and even behavioral scientists from the Investigative Support Units (ISU). The FBI’s Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) is tasked with responding to terrorist incidents within the United States.

A significant problem affecting HRT has been the issue of jurisdiction. For example, in the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles, and 1996 in Atlanta, there was considerable discussion as to which units would respond. In the former instance, the Los Angeles Police Department SWAT team also entered the discussion, further complicating issues. Affecting the unit also is the recent decision to reduce the full-time status of HRT to a quarterly training status. It is not known to what degree this change has effected unit readiness or capabilities.

All members are skilled in close-quarters battle, hostage rescue (including special emphasis on negotiations), rappelling, long-range sniping, and unarmed combat. Some members may also have previous experience, such as SCUBA and even fixed and rotary wing aircraft operations.

There are regional units, also capable of responding, which are manned by former HRT operators. And while HRT is tasked primarily with domestic operations, their capability has recently been enhanced, permitting more use of the team abroad, to capture federal fugitives.

Hope this helps!

419 posted on 02/07/2002 6:38:33 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Travis McGee
Thank you sir.

Travis see post #419

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

420 posted on 02/07/2002 7:12:52 AM PST by harpseal
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