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Child shot in head by off duty cop during school demo
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Posted on 02/06/2002 11:44:28 AM PST by inflorida

This just reported on Fox news. A 10 year old child in Pennsylvania was accidentally shot in the head during a school demonstration by an off-duty cop.
The child is expected to survive.


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To: Mo1
One of the children in my daughters class .. her father is a police officer .. He came to school .. but he didn't shoot anyone ..

I'll bet your daughters class enjoyed their presentation more than the one in Germantown..... (sorry, tragic story but your comment was funny)

141 posted on 02/06/2002 12:48:20 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Chad Fairbanks
No kidding... a dangerous world... just the other day, I was walking down the sidewalk when, to my surprise, I saw a gun ambling down the street towards me. We exchanged greetings, and then he added, "Well, good day! I'm off to rob a convenience store!" and off he went...

Yes, I bet the gun was black plastic too. Or is that racist? Maybe it was stainless steel. But CERTAINLY it was one of those assault weapons.

Why, the other day, in my neighborhood, there were so many guns on the street, they put out my left front and right rear tires simultaneously. We HAVE to get all the guns off the street!!!

142 posted on 02/06/2002 12:48:22 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: inflorida
What is it the liberals always say?ONLY POLICE AND MILITARY SHOULD HAVE GUNS!
143 posted on 02/06/2002 12:48:23 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Lazamataz
OK ... I see your point .. and yes that's what was reported .. actually the local news isn't making a big deal out of it .. basically just a blip of news ..
144 posted on 02/06/2002 12:48:35 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Shermy
Yup! These, among others, are why I chose to homeschool my son 30 years ago..........long before it was either accepted or legal.
145 posted on 02/06/2002 12:49:07 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: francisandbeans
Hey now, we restrict that talk to threads not dealing with dead kids.

Luckily, the kids not dead.

So kiss me, you fool!

146 posted on 02/06/2002 12:49:54 PM PST by Lazamataz
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http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2002/02/06/local_news/06GRAZE.htm
147 posted on 02/06/2002 12:50:29 PM PST by TechJunkYard
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
So you think it was a Glock? Maybe, but it could have been a KW Thompson Contender. Here is an excerpt from a 9th Circuit opinion from 1994 in Pumpphrey v. KW Thompson Tool:

We review in this appeal a district court's decision to set aside a verdict in favor of a defendant in a wrongful death action after the court discovered that defendant's in-house counsel participated in a scheme to defraud the court. The court ordered a new trial over defendant's objection that its conduct did not rise to the level of fraud upon the court, and even assuming that it did, that a new trial should be limited solely to the issue of liability. We agree with the district court that defendant's actions constituted fraud on the court, and that a new trial on all issues is appropriate. Accordingly, we affirm.

I.

Melvin Sparks was killed when he dropped a Thompson P.C. Contender handgun and it fired, sending a bullet through his heart. Sparks' widow and children ("Sparks") brought a wrongful death action against the gun manufacturer, K.W. Thompson Tool Company ("Thompson"), alleging that the gun's internal and external safety devices were engaged at the time of the accident, but that the gun nevertheless fired when dropped.

At trial, Thompson introduced a videotape ("trial video") showing the Contender dropped from various heights and angles. The trial video shows that during the tests, the safeties performed as designed, and the gun never fired. Thompson's production manager, Kendrick French, conducted the tests. Also present were Thompson's vice president and general counsel, Edward Bartlett, and Thompson's president, Robert Gustafson. The jury found that plaintiffs suffered $100,000 in damages, but that the decedent was 80% contributorily negligent. The present action arises as a result of a subsequent, unrelated lawsuit in which another plaintiff claimed injuries resulting from a dropped Thompson Contender. In this lawsuit, a second video ("original video") was produced during discovery, showing that the Contender fired when dropped during testing. This video was prepared by Thompson on the same day as the trial video, but was never produced during the Sparks litigation. A magistrate judge conducting a settlement conference in the later lawsuit learned that the original video was never produced in Sparks, and that Thompson's expert witness, Kendrick French, testified several times in Sparks that he had conducted drop-tests of the Contender but it had never fired. The magistrate judge reported these facts to the federal District Court in Idaho; Sparks' attorney was thereafter informed.

Sparks filed this independent action pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 60(b), seeking to set aside the Sparks verdict. The district court granted summary judgment in favor of Sparks on the ground that Bartlett was an officer of the court and had committed fraud upon the court. The district court further held that even if Bartlett was not an officer of the court, the conduct was sufficient to constitute fraud upon the court. The district court set aside the verdict, ordered a new trial, and awarded attorney's fees.

I have been dealing with fraud upon the court by a number of public officials, so I knew about this particular case.

148 posted on 02/06/2002 12:50:37 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: skateman
Why is it important that we know what time your local news comes on?

How else would you know what time it was ..

149 posted on 02/06/2002 12:50:40 PM PST by Mo1
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To: inflorida
Child shot in head by off duty cop during school demo

This must be as dumb as it sounds.

150 posted on 02/06/2002 12:51:23 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I'll bet your daughters class enjoyed their presentation more than the one in Germantown..... (sorry, tragic story but your comment was funny)

It's ok .. I'm still amazed this idiot shoot a child .. and yes they did .. they learned alot .. like don't point guns at ANYONE

152 posted on 02/06/2002 12:55:08 PM PST by Mo1
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To: New Horizon
Two African-American females were fired for using the police com to cheer for the terrorists and, essentially, curse the American flag. My source was Dom Giordano from WPHT talk radio in Philly. He read the transcript of the conversation - which took place via a messaging system on their patrol car computers. The officers were too dumb to realize the conversation was printing out at police headquarters for review by dispatchers and supervisors.

I have no idea how much, if any, newspaper coverage this got. Probably none from the stInquirer. The Philly Dail News may have something on it.

153 posted on 02/06/2002 12:55:28 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: gridlock; CCWoody
I own and use all manner of handguns, 1911's and other single action pistols, revolvers (single and double action), Makarovs, and a couple of Glocks.

The Glock is no less safe than any other design, and no more safe. My Glocks go "BANG" each and every time I pull the trigger, but only when I pull the trigger.

I feel comfortable carrying a Glock, but I also feel comfortable carrying a 1911 "cocked and locked" something that makes many (ignorant) observors cringe. Of course, I take the time to properly train with all of my weapons, and also observe all safety rules. I can assure you that while it is possible to accidently shoot a child with any handgun, I will never accidently shoot any child with any handgun, to include a Glock.

154 posted on 02/06/2002 12:59:14 PM PST by Jerry_M
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To: inflorida
From Fr. Frog's Home Page The Rules of Firearms Safety.

Many shooting organizations promulgate incredibly long lists of safety rules. (I have seen posted lists of up to 20 rules!) They no doubt do this for political correctness, and to avoid litigation based on "You didn't tell me....," or to simply make them look impressive. However, one can insure safety with just four simple rules. (NRA please take note.)

Always remember, safety is a state of mind and not a device!

These four rules, if followed explicitly, will guarantee firearms safety. Memorize them and heed them. Always!

(1) All firearms are loaded. - There are no exceptions. Don't pretend that this is true. Know that it is and handle all firearms accordingly. Do not believe it when someone says: "It isn't loaded."

(2) Never let the muzzle of a firearm point at anything you are not willing to destroy. - If you are not willing to see a bullet hole in it do not allow a firearm's muzzle to point at it. This includes things like your foot, the TV, the refrigerator, the dog, or anything else that would cause general upset if a hole appeared in it..

(3) Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target. - Danger abounds if you keep your finger on the trigger when you are not about to shoot. Speed is not gained by prematurely placing your finger on the trigger as bringing a firearm to bear on a target takes more time than it takes to move your finger to the trigger.

(4) Be sure of your target and what is behind it. - Never shoot at sounds or a target you cannot positively identify. Know what is in line with the target and what is behind it (bullets are designed to go through things). Be aware of your surroundings whether on a range, in the woods, or in a potentially lethal conflict.

The fifth, unwritten, but implied rule is: Take nothing for granted. Check everything by sight and touch.

Tragedies could be avoided if everyone involved with firearms followed these rules all the time.

Fr. Frog's Home Page

155 posted on 02/06/2002 12:59:48 PM PST by CodeJockey
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To: Lazamataz
I had a close friend, named Sturm... he was a Blue Steel Gun, the only one in a town full of Black Guns... Every time there was an incident, the cops came looking for him. He was being profiled based on the color of his Finish... The racist gov't persecuted him mercilessly, the media was always referring to him as 'ugly' and 'evil'... finally, one day, he went postal and killed 15 people at a small cafe in town, then committed suicide...
156 posted on 02/06/2002 1:01:35 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
An example would be a Glock in a holster, if it hard enough could and has gone off, but the Sig would not.

Nonsense. You can throw the damn thing against a wall as hard as you can and it won't go off.

You're right about it not having a safety, but the only way it goes off is if the trigger is pulled. Period.

157 posted on 02/06/2002 1:03:18 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY; Lazamataz; francisandbeans
Laz: We HAVE to get all the guns off the street!!!<.for the uninitiated, this is Laz's sarcasm.>
INSENSITIVE GUY:What is it the liberals always say?ONLY POLICE AND MILITARY SHOULD HAVE GUNS!

Criminals and Tyrants just love disarmed peasants.
Why can't liberals learn from history?

158 posted on 02/06/2002 1:03:25 PM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: Harrison Bergeron
I remember this .. but if I recalled they were just put on suspension .. but never heard anything else
159 posted on 02/06/2002 1:04:36 PM PST by Mo1
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To: EricOKC;gridlock
Glocks do NOT go off unless you pull the trigger. If you're going to speak, speak factually.
160 posted on 02/06/2002 1:06:28 PM PST by AAABEST
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