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Boy's action 'justifiable', 11-year-old shoots, kills assailant
South Bend Tribune (Indiana) | February 6, 2002 | Gwen O'brien

Posted on 02/06/2002 8:40:01 AM PST by Travis McGee

Boy's action 'justifiable'

11-year-old shoots, kills assailant

By GWEN O'BRIEN

Tribune Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND -- When Tony D. Murry held a box cutter to Sue Gay's neck Monday night, Gay's 11-year-old adopted son ran upstairs at the home at 1348 N. Huey St. and grabbed a gun.

"He hit the bottom of the stairs with the .45 and stood ready stance with the gun," said Gay with feet spread apart and her hands outstretched as if holding a handgun.

The boy shot one round and hit Murry, 27, in the chest, even though the man was shielding himself with Gay. "I don't know how he did that. One shot and he got him. He's my little hero," Gay said of the grandson she adopted.

The fifth-grader may not have been just a lucky shot. This is a family that knows guns. "Before his dad died, they'd go target shooting. He knows they're not toys and not something to mess with," Gay said.

Ironically, it was guns that Murry may have come for in the first place. "Murry demanded all the weapons in the house. Gay's late husband was a weapons collector and Murry knew of the collection," said St. Joseph County Prosecutor Chris Toth, who said this was a case of justifiable homicide.

Gay said her daughter, who is the boy's biological mother and currently in prison, was acquainted with Murry. Murry, or "Casper" as Gay knew him, would come by every couple of months to ask about Gay's daughter. The two never dated, according to Gay.

"I'm not sure where they met. Probably in South Bend when she was off on one of her drug binges," Gay said. In an arrest in November, Murry listed "drug dealer" as his occupation, according to booking records at the St. Joseph County Jail.

"I'm upset because she put us in this position. She didn't send him (Murry) over here, but he was one of her acquaintances. I'm more mad at him though," Gay said.

Murry had been inside Gay's house before Monday night and she trusted him. But this visit was different. "I know he was drunk. At first he wanted me to buy him booze. Then he wanted me to drive him home. I don't leave my house after dark," Gay said.

Gay said Murry had been at the house for about a half an hour. She said she asked him to leave at 8 p.m. because she needed to go to bed. She normally leaves for work at 3 a.m.

"He got irritated and asked for a drink of water. When I was in the kitchen he held the razor knife (box cutter) to my son's throat and said, 'This is not anything personal,' " Gay said.

Then Murry rushed up behind Gay and held the box cutter to her throat, she said.

"He told me, 'Take me to where the guns are.' He pushed me through the kitchen and into the front room," Gay said. Gay stopped at the love seat, put her left foot on it and pushed back on Murry, she said. "I pushed up so he couldn't push me forward any more, and I tried to push his hands down off my neck but he had a tight grip. I called for my son to say 'call 911,' " Gay said.

That's when the boy appeared with the gun. Murry ducked his head behind Gay's small frame. Some of his torso was left unshielded.

"I'm looking down the barrel of a gun that's in an 11-year-old's hands. I knew that if he pulled that trigger I was going to die," Gay said.

But Gay was not hit. She said they didn't immediately know Murry had been shot. "Casper went for the front door, turned the handle and went out of the house. My son ran to me and set the gun down. I hurried up and locked the door and called 911," Gay said.

South Bend police found Murry, of 2009 W. Linden Ave., outside the home. He died in the emergency room at Memorial Hospital.

"The young man reasonably believed his mother and himself to be in danger of dying. It was clear to us this was a justifiable homicide," Toth said. "He did what he had to do. That's an unfortunate burden for an 11-year-old to have on him," he said.

Murry had a criminal history. Between 1993 and 2001 he had several misdemeanor arrests. Murry had a theft conviction from 1994 and a conviction for attempted theft in 1993, which was treated as a misdemeanor. Murry had been convicted of unarmed robbery for which he received a four-year prison sentence in 1997. At the time of his death, Murry was charged in two Class D felony auto theft cases pending in St. Joseph Superior Court. He was scheduled to appear in court Feb. 26 for a possible guilty plea.

Meantime, Gay said after 23 years at 1348 N. Huey St., she is putting the house up for sale and moving with her son out into the county, where her fiance lives.

Gay said the boy is doing well since the shooting. "He's proud of himself. He feels bad he took a human life. But he didn't want to lose me. He lost his dad three years ago to a heart attack," Gay said.


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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
Boxcutters are legal to carry around, have retractable blades, fit in a pocket, and have razor sharp blades. I guess that's why.
81 posted on 02/06/2002 2:27:29 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
This boy's pediatrician is going to be really ticked off when he hears about this! I'm sure he'll give the grandmother a stern lecture about letting this boy have access to guns...
82 posted on 02/06/2002 2:31:28 PM PST by .38sw
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To: .38sw
I don't think that any limp-wristed commie homo-loving gun-grabbing pediatrician is going to have the cojones to say "boo" to this kid or his mom.
83 posted on 02/06/2002 2:36:59 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
:) I would guess grandma would take a pretty big chunk out of his hide if he tried...
84 posted on 02/06/2002 2:43:26 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Travis McGee
Good going, kid.

Isn't it interesting that an 11-year old was able to handle a .45 and shoot well, quickly, under pressure? How could any of us "regular" folks be sure we could do likewise under the same circumstances?

I say give him a parade and a medal, a new Camaro and a scholarship to college.

85 posted on 02/06/2002 2:45:58 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: Travis McGee
Hey, wait a minute. This guy's last name was MURRY?

Related to any "moms" we know around here?

86 posted on 02/06/2002 2:48:55 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: fourdeuce82d
I bought my wife a Sig P230 and I daresay it was the only really bad firearms choice I've ever made, for that reason. I'd rather shoot a .44mag than one of those things.
87 posted on 02/06/2002 2:51:57 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: Travis McGee
Boxcutters are legal to carry around, have retractable blades, fit in a pocket, and have razor sharp blades. I guess that's why.

Hmmm... you seem to know an awful lot about box cutters.

"Hello, FBI..."

;)

88 posted on 02/06/2002 3:34:58 PM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Own Drummer
"I called for my son to say 'call 911,' " Gay said. "

The kid misunderstood mom and got the 1911.

89 posted on 02/06/2002 3:35:33 PM PST by Hal.009
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To: Travis McGee
Maybe his daddy's hands were wrapped around his son's when the boy made the one shot stop.

Well said. Thanks for some good news.

91 posted on 02/06/2002 6:40:20 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: xcon
Could have been. Nasty little number - for sure on both ends!

prambo

92 posted on 02/06/2002 7:09:33 PM PST by prambo
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To: Travis McGee
He probably was trained well. A 13-year old was home with his sibling some years ago. Someone broke in the house, he took his sibling and a .357 Magnum to his bedroom and locked the door. The intruder tried to open the door and he popped the miscreant to death. Asked how he knew how to do it, he said "my father taught me!" This child has the good male stuff. You shoot the way you're trained.
93 posted on 02/06/2002 7:21:48 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
(standard disclaimer)

"I read a lot."

(Understatement of the millenium.)

94 posted on 02/06/2002 7:26:33 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: nunya bidness
Yep, score one for the good guys.
95 posted on 02/06/2002 7:31:26 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: harpseal
The 11 yr old will endure some trauma as he has taken a life, admittedly the life of a scumbag

I thought of that myself almost as soon as I read what he did. I hope he doesn't condemn himself with guilt forever....what he did was right. Prayers to that young boy.

96 posted on 02/06/2002 7:31:47 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: 185JHP
Training is good, and lucky is better. These kids had both. God bless 'em.
97 posted on 02/06/2002 7:34:25 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the flag.

I always enjoy stories like this.

How does that Queen song go..."another one bites the dust, and another one gone...?"

5.56mm

98 posted on 02/07/2002 3:38:58 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: beowolf
BTTT for EXCELLENT shooting!!! And nothing tragic about this story. The idiot got what he deserved!
99 posted on 02/07/2002 3:46:56 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: OKSooner
I bought my wife a Sig P230 and I daresay it was the only really bad firearms choice I've ever made, for that reason

Huh? I have a P232. No a whole heckuva lot of recoil there, IMO. Now the Kimber Ultra Carry, that's got some kick.

100 posted on 02/07/2002 3:50:52 AM PST by RogueIsland
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