[Malcolm]

The Catholic Church is into so much error (non-Scriptural beliefs and tenets), and its followers are so defensive, that you can not tell them that the Catholic Church is a mere human organization; they will not accept this, regardless of it's merit. But Jesus is the rock, not Mary, not Peter, not the current Pontiff, nor anyone other than He himself. A lot of protestant organizations aren't much better, (some support homosexual marriage, etc). The Church is Jesus, and every Christian is a representation of the Church, in the spiritual sense, not the physical one. I consider Catholics allies in politics, some cultural aspects, so I am no enemy of Catholicism. But if truth matters at all, all errors, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, must be revealed and corrected. If the followers of Jesus are not for truth, and a better understanding of what Scripture instructs us to do and to not do, what is left? Hopefully not blind adherence to religion.....

[Campion]

The Catholic Church is into so much error (non-Scriptural beliefs and tenets), and its followers are so defensive, that you can not tell them that the Catholic Church is a mere human organization; they will not accept this, regardless of it's merit.

If the Catholic Church is not the Church Jesus Christ founded, it's crap.

And if the Church Jesus Christ founded is nothing but a "mere human organization," then Jesus Christ is nothing but a fraud and a liar.

And the apostasy you see among some branches of Protestantism today is nothing more than following those two irrefutable facts through to their obvious conclusion.