Posted on 02/04/2002 12:55:13 PM PST by Sir Gawain
For anyone who has attempted to translate from one language to another or worse, to interpret a foreign language simultaneously while someone is speaking knows how easy it is to mess it up. I personally think that Christ dominated all languages at the time. He spoke Hebew in the synagogue, Aramaic with his disciples and Greek when he had to do so. The recently discovered tomb of a family called Caiaphas (sound familiar?) had the family names engraved in Greek and in Hebrew.
There is only one Rock....and that Rock is Jesus Christ ! The cornerstone that the builders rejected!
4074 Peter 161, stone 1; 162
Peter = "a rock or a stone"
1) one of the twelve disciples of Jesus
4073 petra
1) a rock, cliff or ledge
1a) a projecting rock, crag, rocky ground
1b) a rock, a large stone
1c) metaph. a man like a rock, by reason of his firmness and strength of soul
Boy, talk about your bold-faced lies!
Plus, it seems to bring out the worst of the anti-Christian bigots on the forum.
The Gospel of Matthew was written in Aramaic, not Greek, and it was quite clear, if you will read my previous post.
God bless.
Basically, these Rascally Proddies would have you believe 2000 years of error was refuted by their unusually keen and perceptive minds.
But as someone once said: "AntiCatholic Biogtry is the last acceptable Prejudice".
According to Karl Keating, a theologian, we know that Jesus spoke Aramaic for a variety of reasons, amoung which:
"We know that Jesus spoke Aramaic because some of his words are preserved for us in the Gospels. Look at Matthew 27:46, where he says from the cross, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That isnt Greek; its Aramaic, and it means, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?Whats more in Pauls epistlesfour times in Galatians and four times in 1 Corinthianswe have the Aramaic form of Simons new name preserved for us. In our English Bibles it comes out as Cephas. That isnt Greek. Thats a transliteration of the Aramaic word Kepha (rendered as Kephas in its Hellenistic form).
Matthews Gospel was written by him in Aramaic or Hebrewwe know this from records kept by Eusebius of Caesareabut it was translated into Greek early on, perhaps by Matthew himself. In any case the Aramaic/Hebrew original is lost (as are all the originals of the New Testament books), so all we have today is the Greek.
Irrevelant,the church soon drifted into error and the keys were taken away..
Irrevelant,the church soon drifted into error and the keys were taken away..
Glad I could help.
Dan
But this isn't what it SAYS, this is your interpretation of what Matthew 16:18 says.
To me, it says very clearly "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church."
Because I am Catholic, if I didn't understand what the scripture says, I go to the Magisterum -- the teaching authority of the Church. All Protestants have the same thing: if an individual doesn't understand something, they go to their Pastor. But different Protestant pastors will often render different interpretations ... even within the same denomination.
Catholicism is based on Scripture and Sacred Tradition. Many Protestants do not understand what Catholics really believe. Protestants don't like what they mistakening THINK is the Catholic faith. A little honest research might bring us closer together in Faith. One book I particularly like is Catholic and Christian, An Explanation of Commonly Misunderstood Catholic Beliefs.
I have many Protestant friends who I love dearly. One thing I noticed is that some of the best Catholic apologists are former Protestant ministers. They know their Bible, and they know more about the Catholic Church than I do, even though I was ostensibly raised in the Church. Catholics can and should learn more about their Faith. It is required of us, but many don't go past basic doctrine.
I'm glad you asked that. Intercession comes from Scripture.
The apostle Paul frequently asked other fellow believers in Jesus to pray for him.
Col 4:3
At the same time, pray for us, too, that God may open a door to us for the word, to speak of the mystery of Christ, for which I am in prison.
Rom 15:30
... join me in the struggle by your prayers to God on my behalf,
James asks presbyter believers to pray over other believers.
Jam 5:14
Is anyone among you sick? He should summon the presbyters of the church, and they should pray over him and anoint (him) with oil in the name of the Lord
"you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built upon the foundations of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone." (Eph 2:19-20
Catholic Christians believe that as we can ask a fellow Christian -a saint- to pray for us, we should be able to ask prayers from the saints already united to the Lord in heaven. If the prayers of certain Christians here on earth seem to possess special power because of their great faith witness or holiness, how much more powerful and effective might not the prayers of those of the communion of saints in heaven who are fully united to God.
There are many other references to saints, praying for each other, and offering prayers to God through those already in Heaven. I would be happy to cite them.
God bless.
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