An Open Letter to Europe

Right Wing News ^ | 1/04/01 | John Hawkins

[CommiesOut]

"Let's show them a nice carrot"
Comrade Kasyanov

"An unprecedented basis for a long-term presence"
Russian aerospace group expects new business in Afghanistan
NATO parliamentary committee to hold meeting in the obscure Koenigsberg Enclave
Russian minister invites Afghan leaders to visit Moscow
Tried but failed to convince Russia to stop its military and nuclear energy cooperation with the Islamic republic

[Smile-n-Win]

All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked...

After 9/11, you needn't tell Americans they're being attacked!

...and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.

Just who are the peacemakers now? The ones who want to end the terror by eliminating the terrorists, or the ones who want to wait until they strike again--and then, when they've struck again, do nothing in response, just wait until they strike yet again--and then again, do nothing in response...

[struwwelpeter]

"Each nation is unhappy in its own way."

Tolstoy

[Long Cut]

Geez, look at THIS thread. Seems a lot of people (who no doubt see themselves as smarter and more sophisticated than the rest of us) think little of America winning a war. That's fine, as long as they do nothing to hinder the effort, and they seem like the types that are too sophisticated to do anything at all.

Please, folks(and you know who you are), refrain from attending the victory celebrations. The champagne would probably not be to your standards anyway, and those of us who prefer winning to losing would not be your type, either.

These people remind me...of the Europeans.

[CommiesOut]

"The country has to spend money in order to remain prosperous"

Vladimir Yu. Khudoy-Golodnikov

[CommiesOut]

I can't believe it...
Look at these commie peacnik traitors.
They ignore our war!:

Israeli and Palestinian businessmen launched a dialogue to lobby for peace, which they said would survive "even while the guns are shooting...until common sense will prevail" -- unlike the on-off moves of politicians. The businessmen jointly announced an initiative created under the auspices of the forum for five Israeli and five Palestinian business leaders to join forces, lobby for peace with the two governments and meet regularly in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv as permanent members of a wider group from their communities.
http://www.reuters.co.il/news2000/N2S51108.HTM

[monkeywrench]

So do I. I figure at the very least we'll get our military built back up. Many don't want that. I don't believe we would be allowed to rebuild in any other way. The media, the lefties in both houses, china, etc...would have screamed bloody murder, obstructed, and thwarted any effort. According to chinas own threats, we're going to need a stronger military. Better to build, now, than worry later.

[CommiesOut]

And the Winners are:
Pakistan, India, Jordan and Oman
Woohoo!

[jmp702]

And nothing, not a damn thing for our most favored and supportive U.N. ally, the now phosphate-free Nauru.

[jmp702]

LOL. Too close to call. But Tuvalu is rolling in cash.

In 2000, Tuvalu negotiated a contract leasing its Internet domain name ".tv" for $50 million in royalties over the next dozen years.

[F.J. Mitchell]

A BTTT! in support of every word.

[Michael2001]

All that I see from you guys is a criticism of our war efforts. You of course have a right to do so. It is not unAmerican to criticize an American administration or it's war efforts. I myself was strongly opposed to our actions in the former Yugoslavia and Somalia (among others). But this is different, we were attacked, our civilians were killed, and our country and its citizens are still at risk. 3,000 Americans are dead, and Afghanistan is not the only country that harbored these terrorists. As far as we know many of the masterminds behind 9/11 are alive and well, and there are many governments and orginizations that wish us harm.

Who knows how far we are from the next 9/11? Who knows how far we are from something much worse than 9/11? How close are the terrorists to obtaining weapons of mass destruction? How close are the terrorists to detonating a nuclear device in a large American city and killing millions of people. Revenge is sweet, but we must now act for much more than revenge. We must act to protect our country and its citizens. How do you propose that we act?

[Michael2001]

The criticism does not come from ordinary Europeanss, but from a few left-wingers who are noisy in the media.

That is my view as well. Of course I have no evidence to back me up, I know of no polls on the subject, but I have distant family in Germany. From what they tell me the average German is 100% behind our war efforts, and they understand that their country is at risk too. Their media gripes about the treatment of our Taliban prisoners, but the average German understands that these people are scum anyway (kind of like the relationship between ordinary citizen to journalist in this country). My gut feeling is that this sentiment is shared across Europe (except maybe in France).

[jmp702]

Michael, thank you for your reasonable and respectful post. I will try and respond (speaking solely on my own behalf) as best I can.

Firstly, I completely support our retaliatory efforts, and would support retaliation against any group or country that attacked mine (ours). Period. The catch is that as one gets older his experiences, and the knowledge and wisdom that comes from those experiences, can cause cynicism of the dubiousness of war. Is war a result of humanities inability to coexist? (War, mind you, not skirmishes.) Or is war the product of megalomaniacal and/or sociopathic personalities who, insulated from personal risk, propagandise the citizens to engagement and the sacrifice of their lives for the folly of the leaders pathology and enrichment?

I would ask rhetorically, did the German people know of the future evil that Hitler was to propagate? Or was their desperate economic condition such that a pathological leader could propagandise their salvation and instill unbelievably hysterical support? (for additional support hysteria, see bill clinton...:))

I don't have the answers, but I do know what my instincts and perceptions lead me to believe.

My high school and college years were the late 60's to mid 70's, the era of Vietnam. I was passionately angry at all of the radical student movement protests of that era. At my alma mater, UCLA, we had Communists (startling for a naive kid who grew up in period of the Red menace) on faculty and an endless stream of speakers that openly attacked my country. I would debate with leftists to the point I wanted to come to blows with them. If you ever have the opportunity, rent a video documentary, "Berkeley In The 60's" to educate yourself about the student movement.

Now, here we are 25 years later. Many of those rabid anti-American, anti-war student movement leaders are now in the mainstream and promoting and propagandizing all out war with nations with whom we have no dispute. How can this be? Can we possibly go to war against many of the nations of the world because they, at some point, have had terrorists living inside of their borders? Taking it to an illogical extreme, should we bomb ourselves because we had a leader in the 90's who committed terrorism against countries to divert attention from his sexual escapades in the White House?

The escalating list of countries whom the media and their pundits want us to go to war with is absurd. These same (now) mainstream pundits, who, if we could look into a crystal ball at their past, were probably at the forefront of the anti-war student movement. My point isn't about equating Vietnam with our war against terrorism. It's about how the powers-that-be will play either side of the issue as it benefits their selfish interests. Selfish interests of those who have no regard for the welfare of the citizenry or perhaps even the nation, other than as players in their war games.

This pending war against the world isn't solely about terrorism. It's about subjugating others in the interests of those powerful elite. It's about a swift and painless method of destroying constitutional rights. It's about forcing people to give up the idea of national sovereignty, whereever they may live. It's about forcing people to accept ideas and cultures which they don't want.

If this was solely about terrorism, we would respond appropriately and have our national agencies that are responsible, continue the war. Continue the war by identifying, infiltrating and eliminating terrorism at the source. Working with other allied intelligence agencies throughout the world to accomplish the long term objective of elimination. But not, by attacking a long of countries which do not support terrorism as policy.

No, with war you don't always see what you see.

[CommiesOut]

Yep. East Coast noticed it, too.
Back to the Cold War.
They are all members of the Northern Alliance
It's me or our foreign policy changed rhythm from "Election cycle" to "Saturday cycle"?