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We must 'go after poverty' to stop terror, Powell says
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | February 2, 2002

Posted on 02/02/2002 4:53:58 AM PST by sarcasm

NEW YORK -- Secretary of State Colin Powell said yesterday that the United States and its allies must battle global poverty as part of the war against terrorism, saying that those seduced by terrorists must be shown "there is a better way."

"We have to go after poverty," Powell said. "We have to go after despair. We have to go after hopelessness."

He spoke to a session of the World Economic Forum, which has brought 2,500 corporate, religious, and political leaders to the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in Manhattan.

There were few demonstrations on the streets surrounding the hotel, but the forum's Web site crashed yesterday morning, and three groups of cyberactivists claimed responsibility. They called themselves Electronic Civil Disobedience, Electronic Disturbance Theater and the Federation of Random Action.

Charles McLean, a forum spokesman, said technicians were struggling yesterday to restore the site, which carries the forum's press releases and other information at www.weforum.org.

McLean said organizers were still trying late last night to determine what brought the site down.

Questions of poverty, terrorism and security dominated the second day of the gathering, moved to New York from its customary Alpine home in Davos, Switzerland, to show solidarity with the city after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Discussions were impassioned, but participants did not always see eye to eye.

Powell said that the war on terrorism should focus on countries that produce weapons of mass destruction, arguing that they might provide them to terrorists. "We can't just stop at a single terrorist organization; we have to go through the whole system."

While Powell emphasized the need for a long-term military commitment, Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, president of the Philippines, said she believed that the military fight was nearly over and that it should be replaced by a battle against "the handmaiden of terrorism, poverty."

"The rest (of the military campaign) will be mopping up," Arroyo said. "The coalition should stay on and fight against poverty."

About 4,000 police officers were stationed near the hotel to ward off a repeat of violent protests at financial summits in Seattle and Genoa.

But police spent more time trying to stay dry in the cold drizzle than they did arresting protesters. After arresting eight Thursday, police had made no arrests related to the forum by yesterday afternoon.

"It's all hype," one police officer patrolling the area around the hotel said. "Nothing's going to happen."

But protest leaders said they expect thousands to march in a festive noontime parade today, starting at the southern tip of Central Park and moving past the Waldorf.

Powell, speaking at a panel on building a coalition for a stable world, said the United States is just beginning its campaign against terrorism and will "make sure we root it out, wherever it exists."

But America will also help countries solve problems that make them hotbeds for terrorism, Powell added. He cited Afghanistan, where he said the United States will continue humanitarian efforts to rebuild the shattered country.

In afternoon sessions, other leaders sparred over questions of national security and civil rights raised by the response to the Sept. 11 attacks.

"We are in a conflict that is different than just about any conflict we have been in," said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Hatch also voiced his support for U.S. plans to convene military tribunals to try accused terrorists.

But Irene Khan, secretary-general of Amnesty International, sharply disagreed on the tribunals.

"There is no need to create a political shadow system to deal with these threats," she said. Treating those accused of terrorist crimes differently from other citizens, she said, sends the message to repressive regimes that it is permissible to deny civil rights.

Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, who with Powell, was one of the top two U.S. officials at the five-day conference, said that helping countries overcome their troubles isn't always easy.

"Over the last 50 years, hundreds of billions have been spent in the name of economic development, with so many of the countries that have been major recipients still not showing strong evidence of positive change," he said.

O'Neill added that research is needed "to understand where our efforts have given great results and, maybe more importantly, where there are no results or regression."

Later, Homeland security director Tom Ridge said America and its allies have learned much about how terrorists operate but must learn "to think in terms of unthinkable events."

"We will always have to be prepared, we will always have to be in the business of looking for threats and vulnerabilities," Ridge said.

Several participants said the United States and other wealthy countries need to stop showing indifference to the frustrations of developing nations.

People in poor nations "do not feel that this sort of international order is really helping them," said Amr Moussa, secretary-general of the Arab League. "We know that two-thirds of the world's population are poor and hungry, two-thirds are really angry, and we don't have to ask why."

More than 2,700 participants from 106 countries are attending the meeting, including 30 heads of state, 100 Cabinet ministers and 74 ambassadors. Participants include King Abdullah II of Jordan; Kofi Annan, secretary-general of the United Nations; Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates; and Bono, the lead singer for the rock group U2.


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To: sarcasm
Just proves that you can take the boy out of the welfare-oriented slum - but that you can't take the welfare-oriented slum out of the boy.
81 posted on 02/02/2002 11:28:19 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: sneakypete
I don't always disagree with you, you write often here at FR.

I'll say this, I don't agree with Powell at all. Regardless if Bush is President or not.

82 posted on 02/02/2002 11:31:59 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: sneakypete
Some others think it's good cop/ bad cop, and while I respect their opinions, I think he undercuts the President a bit too much.
83 posted on 02/02/2002 11:33:20 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: sarcasm
Makes ya wonder..

Will the REAL conservatives please stand up??

84 posted on 02/02/2002 11:35:10 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: eastforker
and is leaving Powell out of the loop,watch for a letter of resignation to follow.

It's too early for Powell to resign yet. He is just now starting to "make his bones" as a "independent moderate thinker". He needs another year and several more incidents,and THEN he can resign and hit the book and talk show circuit. Just in time to be drafted as Buh-Bette!'s VP running mate in 2004.

BTW,my prediction since BEFORE the 2000 elections would be that Powell would resign in 2003 over "policy differences" with Bush,mostly having to do with the US not providing enough AIDS vachinne and food to Africa. This would turn into a public disagreement and Powell would then resign as a "man of honor and principle" (gag,puke!)

If he and Buh-Bette! run on the same ticket,they win. It's as simple as that.

85 posted on 02/02/2002 11:36:51 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sarcasm
Poverty causes terrorism? Oh, finally I understand. That explains why Osama bin Laden is the world's most infamous terrorist.

Powell cannot open his mouth without inserting his foot in it. This is an insult to decent poor people everywhere.

86 posted on 02/02/2002 11:37:40 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: erizona
Powell is a buffoon.

And that's giving him more credit than he deserves.

87 posted on 02/02/2002 11:39:15 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: P-Marlowe
Powell is beginning to sound like an affirmative action appointment. "STARTING"? He is a creature that owes his whold damn existence to affirmative-action,and he knows it. This is why he has stated affirmative-action programs are important and must be kept running.

BTW,if it wasn't for AA,Powell would have never even been promoted to Major,never mind General.

Either he is really stupid or he is really stupid.

He was a straight "D" student at CUNY. YOU figure it out.

88 posted on 02/02/2002 11:43:38 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sarcasm
If only he would go on to say: "And the only effective way to go after poverty is to promote the rule of law, private property, the inalienable rights of human beings, and economic freedom."
89 posted on 02/02/2002 11:51:24 AM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: CW_Conservative
Patton maybe, but Mac was CORRECTLY fired by Truman. The arrogant SOB never failed to take credit for the success of others plans and to blame the planners and people in the trenches for any failures. He WAS dugout Doug, he spent the war berating the general and troops he left behind on Corrigedor for not "fighting to the death" and he did not understand his place in the constitutional configuration of civilian control of military actions and policies. This control over the years has had many successes and a few bad decisions (LBJ and his cronies picking targets comes to mind), but overall it is sound. I served with a number of generals over my military career and find that all too many these days are like Mac when they should be more like Bradley, Patton, Puller or Schwartzkopf - that is too many are self-serving managers instead of selfless leaders. Powell should go, appoint Rice as SecState.
90 posted on 02/02/2002 12:03:59 PM PST by RJS1950
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To: RJS1950
Let's not forget about that ego-maniac actually putting himself in for the Medal of Honor,either.
91 posted on 02/02/2002 12:50:52 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Crustacean
All he's really asking is that Corporate America rapes the rest of the planet slightly less than usual.

What are you talking about?...JFK

92 posted on 02/02/2002 11:05:11 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER
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To: sarcasm
Maybe we could launch a global "Great Society" program.

HEY!!..not so loud!

93 posted on 02/02/2002 11:26:11 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: section9
You've got to remember that Powell is supposed to be the "moderate" in the good cop/bad cop relationship he has with Bush

OK, Powell is the moderate....but....I'm sorry...Who's the good cop and who's the bad cop again?

When Powell stopped Swartskoff(SP?) from going to Baghdad was he the good cop, the bad cop, or the moderate?

94 posted on 02/02/2002 11:34:16 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: sarcasm
I just don't agree with his analogy about the poor nurturing terrorism, because Osama is filthy rich. If he had been from a poor family or neighborhood, I might see some correlation; but this is just plain stupid.
95 posted on 02/02/2002 11:39:18 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: sarcasm
But Irene Khan, secretary-general of Amnesty International, sharply disagreed on the tribunals.

"There is no need to create a political shadow system to deal with these threats," she said. Treating those accused of terrorist crimes differently from other citizens, she said, sends the message to repressive regimes that it is permissible to deny civil rights

If you have to, read that last bit a couple of times and think about it.
The stupidity is mind-boggling.

Irene Khan. This is the best Amnesty International can do? How utterly pathetic.

96 posted on 02/02/2002 11:43:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sarcasm
If only we had fed and clothed the poor in Japan, Pearl Harbor wouldn't have occurred. /Foggy Bottom bilge
97 posted on 02/02/2002 11:48:05 PM PST by Young Rhino
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To: RJS1950
Patton maybe, but Mac was CORRECTLY fired by Truman. The arrogant SOB never failed to take credit for the success of others plans and to blame the planners and people in the trenches for any failures. He WAS dugout Doug, he spent the war berating the general and troops he left behind on Corrigedor for not "fighting to the death" and he did not understand his place in the constitutional configuration of civilian control of military actions and policies. This control over the years has had many successes and a few bad decisions (LBJ and his cronies picking targets comes to mind), but overall it is sound. I served with a number of generals over my military career and find that all too many these days are like Mac when they should be more like Bradley, Patton, Puller or Schwartzkopf - that is too many are self-serving managers instead of selfless leaders. Powell should go, appoint Rice as SecState.

The Senate held hearings in 1951 on MacArthur and Korea and Postdam, I really suggest you look for the transcripts and spend some time objectively reading them. I'm no fan of MacArthur the person, but Truman was wrong and his action was close to treason.

99 posted on 02/10/2002 9:46:19 PM PST by CW_Conservative
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To: Kozak
Might as well surrender now. We can't win this war. The poor will always be with us

It's not poverty, it's the education to get your own butt out of poverty. When will they ever learn? Nothing fancy either, just the 3 r's so they can read magazines and mail order catalogs.

100 posted on 02/10/2002 9:51:09 PM PST by DonkeyHodee
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