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To: Vineyard
you need not hold my views, nor i, yours, to be friends. unlike many on this forum i'm not into flaming people.

my view is that both oppositional ways of dealing with things are obsolete; the world is not black and white.

i reject the dem-socialist class issue while rejecting the allegedly conservative view that we're all equal, if you don't succeed, it's your fault. such an agrument flies in the face of common sense and everyday experience, and does conservativism no favors.

i'm the one who brought up the ghe-tto as a counter example. since you didn't like that one, i'll chose another counter example to rush:

sally, a white chick rush's age, grew up also in cape girardeau. her mother divorced a jerk and struggled to bring up her kids the best that she could. sally barely graduated from high school and worked at a local convenience store.

meanwhile rush, according to his own words, grew up upper-middle class with a lawyer father. rush brags how he and his father bonded while his father piloted the family plane; indeed, he owes all of his conservative knowledge which he passes on to listeners to his father and those father-son plane flight discussions.

it takes no intellectual heavy-lifting to see the what you see around you everyday: the sallys of the world are not going to "compete" with the rushes. an unstable emotional and financial upbringing does not yield a rush limbaugh, katie couric, dan rather or whatever.

i enjoyed rush in 1990 when there were few conservative views on the air, and especially when the clintons assumed office in 1993. but i'm tired of rush and his inflated persona.

i stopped listening to him when he said that hillary was not running for the u.s. senate.

senor ken.

144 posted on 02/02/2002 11:41:34 AM PST by ken21
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To: ken21
i reject the dem-socialist class issue while rejecting the allegedly conservative view that we're all equal, if you don't succeed, it's your fault. such an agrument flies in the face of common sense and everyday experience, and does conservativism no favors.

Well said. But such common sense went out of style with the passing of giants like Russell Kirk and Mel Bradford, who never saw conservatism as being about avarice and pride. But what did they know.... after all, this current crop worships at the altar of Success and Fame, and if they crack open a book it's a mystery novel or a golf rag.

147 posted on 02/02/2002 10:32:21 PM PST by Pelham
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