Posted on 01/29/2002 11:01:29 PM PST by summer
So does my Social Security card, but that has never stopped anyone from using my SSN to identify me.
Really, you've been here since '98 ? Not under THIS nic. So, how many times have you been banned / left & come back / decided to hide your identity ? No wonder you are so enamoured of this veil thingy. : - )
I saw your nic, but hey, you could be lying . You might be a full bloodied Chinese, or a Tuttsi, or a mixture of all races and ethnicities, who came to America 3 months ago. You have already either lied, or been monstrously confused about a story I was giving as an example. I've been here ( lurking and member ) since most of '98. My nic has remained the same. I don't make up garbage, when I don't know something, I am trustworthy . Can't say the same for you, dear. Just keep on didgging that hole. : - )
Lol. Love that desperate dig at American men. It really makes your argument.
No one sees a problem with "letting this woman go around veiled," they see a problem with someone not complying with the law while driving.
As for free excerise of religion, I'm with Antonin Scalia. Freedom of religion does not grant a license to break the law. To enforce something otherwise would be "courting anarchy," as he puts it, every time someone cranked out an excuse for an exemption.
It takes only a little imagination to forsee new religions with instant rituals popping up that would be illegal if it were not for the religious drapery. If you think that we could stop new religions from making such claims, consider some old religions needing only a tweak to make female circumcision, Talibanesque "whack-a-wife" rules, or even Suttee of Hindu tradition a part of formal religion.
Yeah, now there's some free exercise.
What is to stop the religious group of ski mask wearers to decide they, too can't show their faces, or the religion of panty hose wearers, or clowns, maybe they don't want to show their real faces, for religious reasons. After all this is a FREE country.
I need to go now before I blow a gasket.
Let's GRRRRoll'
So does my Social Security card, but that has never stopped anyone from using my SSN to identify me.
Ever see an ACLooney lawsuit to stop the collection of SS#s at the time of driver's license renewal (now required because of deadbeat dad laws)?
Certainly would've been a better protection of the public's rights from this so-called civil liberties group.
John Lindh Walker claimed to be black in some of his usenet posts as Prof J. He took great outrage at "caucasians" use of the N word and several other methods of whitey's oppression.
In Florida (as well as other states, I'm sure), obtaining the ability to operate a motor vehicle on it's streets is a privilege accorded to a person by the state. It is not a right. No where in the Constitution of the United States does it say that man has an unalienable right to drive. This is NOT a constitutional issue. Therefore, the religious persuasion of the driver has no impact.
If a person gets stopped by the police and is deemed intoxicated via a field sobriety test, their license is confiscated and suspended on the spot, before the alleged offender even gets to court. Some would think that this violates the alleged offender's right to due process, but that is not the case at all. Because operating a motor vehicle is a privilege - not a right. The rights of the offender pertain - in this instance - only to the misdemeanor charge of DUI, for which due process is adhered to. The drivers license aspect is simply an administative procedure.
With this in mind, if this woman wants to operate a motor vehicle in the state of Florida, then she will have to show her face on the photo - or walk. There is no constitutional issue regarding religion here. She could be from the religion of Facially Covered Women from a Far Off Land, and it still wouldn't matter. If you desire to drive - you follow the rules - or you walk.
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