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To: Marine Inspector
Well this statement shows your complete ignorance to the law. If your statement was true, then the majority of the US would already belong to Mexico, as they would all come north, say they are US citizens and be free to enter the country and take over.

I'm not quarreling with you at all--please note I was being somewhat sarcastic in saying "jack-booted thug." I'm pointing out that some of the folks on this board have about as much use for law enforcement of ANY flavor as real live criminals do.

Just stating that you are a US citizen does not give you any rights in the US or protect you under any law in the US.

Again, that's not the wisdom in some quarters of this board. I'm with you on that, but a lot of folks here on FR would just as soon spit at you as answer any question you ask them.

You must prove to that jack-booted thug that you are in reality a US citizen, and I don't care how you word your declaration of citizenship, the burden of proof is on you to prove it, and it takes a lot more then just handing me a birth certificate and saying you were born in the US.

Again, some of the cop-hating folks on FR feel differently.

And while we are on the subject, why don't you post you OPLAN for protecting the borders. I'm sure it looks like Swiss cheese.

First, deactivate the BATF, transfer its headcount to the INS/BP. Second, deactivate the DEA and transfer those persons to INS/BP or Customs as appropriate. Third, get rid of all interior checkpoints (San Onofre and Temecula come to mind) and place those persons on the borders. That ought to get the body count up a bit higher.

Next, bump up the penalties for hiring illegal aliens, despite the howls of protest that will accompany same. (BTW, expect those howls to be heard on Free Republic more than from the DemocRATS.)

Also, END welfare completely. This country is a really lousy one to be poor in if the government quits subsidizing same. If they can't afford to live here, they won't.

Finally, put in a bracero program that (a) allows people to cross the border for work, (b) clears them out when work isn't available, and (c) makes it clear that violating bracero status means that the violator is permanently barred from ever entering the United States.

230 posted on 01/29/2002 12:00:17 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
My apologizes. As I take great offense to being called a jack-booted thug, I missed the sarcasm in your statement.

First, deactivate the BATF, transfer its headcount to the INS/BP. Second, deactivate the DEA and transfer those persons to INS/BP or Customs as appropriate. Third, get rid of all interior checkpoints (San Onofre and Temecula come to mind) and place those persons on the borders. That ought to get the body count up a bit higher.

Please don't place those idiots at BAFT in with us. Just disband BAFT and all federal BAFT regulations and let the States decide how they want to regulate alcohol, tobacco and firearms. I think the DEA should go with Customs, as INS deals with people not product. As for getting rid of the interior check points, I say no. The INS will never have enough bodies to cover every foot of our border, so some people will get through between the Border Inspection Stations, and interior checks points are still the best bet on catching these people. But, I would make them all mobile as opposed to permanent. Permanent check points are easy to defeat. INS needs to mix it up and not get complacent.

Next, bump up the penalties for hiring illegal aliens, despite the howls of protest that will accompany same. (BTW, expect those howls to be heard on Free Republic more than from the DemocRATS.)

I've brought this point up on several occasions and most everyone aggress that this needs to be done. I think this is the INS's weakest link. If you make it hell to employ illegal aliens, then no one will employ them. If there are no jobs, they won't come looking for jobs. Unfortunately big money would be against this and since our leaders in Washington are for sale, we lose.

Also, END welfare completely. This country is a really lousy one to be poor in if the government quits subsidizing same. If they can't afford to live here, they won't.

A very good point that I completely agree upon.

Finally, put in a bracero program that (a) allows people to cross the border for work, (b) clears them out when work isn't available, and (c) makes it clear that violating bracero status means that the violator is permanently barred from ever entering the United States.

Also very good, but you must include the stipulation that this program can not ever lead to residency, except for marriage to a USC. It seems to me, that every new visa program INS implements, they all seem to lead to residency, and I'm sure that any program like this that Bush would support, would have some loop hole that allows everyone to become a resident, which is what he wants anyway.

231 posted on 01/29/2002 12:48:21 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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