[WRhine]

Question: are you willing to carry some form of identification that establishes your citizenship at all times?

That's a straw man argument implying that there is only one way of combating illegal immigration. The most effective way to stop illegal immigration, in addition to sealing off the borders, is to make the penalty for hiring illegal immigrants so high on businesses that it becomes uneconomical. That means that prospective hires need to PROVE beyond all doubt that they are legal by evidencing a social security card, a birth certificate, a green card, a drivers license and after that they have to go through a required background check. The onus is thus placed squarely on the business, just like the onus is placed on taxpayers to prove they are innocent. If an employer screws up...tough rocks.

If truth be told, just about everyone can spot an illegal alien. We don’t need anymore of the “nod and wink” flimsy excuses like "he showed me his bogus green card". If employer sanctions are applied in the manner I described, law-abiding citizens will not have to carry around some citizenship ID card.

[Poohbah]

That's a straw man argument implying that there is only one way of combating illegal immigration. The most effective way to stop illegal immigration, in addition to sealing off the borders, is to make the penalty for hiring illegal immigrants so high on businesses that it becomes uneconomical.

Well, someone tell that to the biggest loudmouth "SEAL OFF THE BORDERS" person I know. He's also the biggest hirer of day labor there is. I don't think he'd give any more money to Glen Spencer if ol' Glen suggested THAT.

That means that prospective hires need to PROVE beyond all doubt that they are legal by evidencing a social security card, a birth certificate, a green card, a drivers license and after that they have to go through a required background check. The onus is thus placed squarely on the business, just like the onus is placed on taxpayers to prove they are innocent. If an employer screws up...tough rocks.

And if the government issued the hiree any identification at all, then the case bombs--if the government can't spot phony paper, how the hell is anyone else supposed to?

If truth be told, just about everyone can spot an illegal alien.

If truth be told, just about anyone can spot an ignorant goober like you as well. I found out the hard way that I was employing three illegal alien in the early 1990s. The INS didn't notice them at all. Oh yeah, one was from Serbia, and two were from Ireland. Guess they'd fly under your magic illegal-alien-detecting radar.