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Another New Poll Shows Conservative Bill Simon's Support Exploding in California
Bill Simon for Governor ^
| 01/27/02
| Simon for Governor Campaign
Posted on 01/27/2002 8:25:56 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: churchillbuff
WHo's funding the TV ads that attack Riordan for giving money to pro-life candidates and causes?
I can't help but think Davis is behind them, but isn't it a little early for him to be attacking Riordan? In any case, those ads are new low. Pro-abortion Riordan isn't pro-abortion enough? I mean, who are they aiming these ads at? How many Planned Parenthood employees vote in the Republican primary anyway?
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To: ambrose
The big danger is that Simon and Jones will split the vote allowing Riordan to squeak by. I hope one or the other drops out before the primaryGood point. And if Jones is an "establishment" Republican out there in California, the same monied scumbags who are pushing Riordan may be able to "persuade" Jones to hang in, just to foil Simon. Anybody got a bead on Jones' integrity?
To: SharonLorraine
Agreed. I like Simon but I think he came across as a little stiff. For the next two debates he needs to loosen up and relax. He has good ideas, makes good points, and was the most specific of the candidates. As for Jones, he is a nice guy and came across as competent in the debate, in fact I think he beat Simon by a nose in the debate, but he was at times too aggressive and went on too many personal attacks. I was originally for Jones, moved to Simon, then after the debate went back into the undecided column. These rising poll numbers for Simon are a good sign. Everyone remember how far back in the polls Davis was, and then he came back and won everything? It is good now that people choose between Simon and Jones. Too big a split there could allow Riordan to get it. On the other hand, Simon looks like he is taking Riordan voters which is the best possible scenario!
To: StopDemocratsDotCom
think it's great...but I don't want to jump up and celebrate Simon's victory in the primary if he wins and then see him lose against Davis. I rather see a Riordan victory and take a grain of salt then see Simon win the primary and lose the race for Governor.
The fact is even if simon loses and Riordan wins Simon will force Riordan to the right of some issues so its very important for conservative and liberal republicans to fight it out on tradional republican issues. Giving Riordan a blank check will even if he wins will mean more then just token support of conservative issues.
To: goldenstateghettostate
Simon is either taking Riordan voters or undecided voters. Notice how Jones holds steady the whole time. That 13% is mostly farmers/agricultural interests, since Jones is a farmer himself, and various party people who see it as Jones' turn. They're true believers and Simon would do best to just write them off and focus on convincing the conservatives in Riordan's column that he too can win.
GO SIMON!
To: irishjuggler;churchillbuff
The ads are funded by Davis.
Read about it
HEREAnd yes, it seems a little early for Davis to be attacking Riordan, but my theory is that Davis wants to paint Riordan as the frontrunner and wants to face Riordan in the general election. (Hmmmm ... Why would that be?) These ads amount to a nice, "free" push for Riordan, don't you think?
It stinks to high heaven.
To: ambrose
Yeah but it looks like Jones' support is going to slowly shift to Simon if Simon continues to see his support grow in the polls. He will become the leading anti-Riordan candidate.
To: TheAngryClam
True, the Central Valley is strongly for Jones. My hope is that whichever one of them looks the most viable close to election time, that voters will unite behind that candidate and give him the extra push to beat Riordan.
To: lewislynn
Pete Wilson destroyed the California GOP...AND, he almost destroyed California with his phony energy deregulation scam
Wrong and partly wrong... Wilson kicked butt for the GOP in California, it was the immigration wimps who've stabbed us in the back.
Deregulation was a bipartisan failure to be sure, but certain follow-up legislation was supposed to have been enacted after Wilson left office... and wasn't. That's not his fault.
Further, I heard him interviewed during the height of the "energy shortage," and he made the point that Davis had certain emergency powers at his disposal to get power plants approved and to get dormant plants running, but didn't. Davis didn't want to offend the clean-air zealots, so he allowed the situation to fester.
To: Lancey Howard
There was an article in the paper the other day where a Jones campaign worker said that they had scaled back their advertising plans and they were only going to target 1 million voters out of the 2-3 million voters expected in the GOP primary. So they are already writing off 1/2 to 2/3 of the GOP electorate in March. I imagine Jones won't be registering too high among GOP voters in the March primaries.
To: irishjuggler
IMO, Davis and Riordan are overestimating the numbers of real Republican women who are pro abortion.
To: goldenstateghettostate
But if voters never hear from Jones and see and hear Simon and Riordan on the radio and TV then I think they will do exactly as you wish them to and will polarize behind the two leading contenders. Hopefully most of them for Simon and NOT Riordan!
To: Sabertooth
Study your Wilson, man. Wilson sold the California GOP down the river. He pushed the largest tax hike in California history in 1991 (with some help from then Assembly Republican Leader Bill Jones, I might add) and then tried to gain control of the legislature with his moderates away from the incumbent conservatives. A lot of time was wasted on that precursor battle of the Riordan vs. the Conservatives we see now. He screwed us, and big.
To: goldenstateghettostate
"IMO, Davis and Riordan are overestimating the numbers of real Republican women who are pro abortion." I agree completely! After the nasty abortion debates of the past decade one would think that the virulently pro-abortion women would have left the GOP anyways. I would suspect a majority of Republican women were at least leaning pro-life if not hardcore.
To: Lancey Howard
I have never stayed home on election day since I've been old enough to vote, but.............I could not bring myself to punch that hole next to Riordan's name.
I am praying that Simon is the candidate.
To: Sabertooth
Agreed. Pete Wilson gets blamed for more than he deserves. He's become a comfortable scapegoat for some.
To: TheAngryClam
I'm not claiming Pete was perfect... I had to hold my nose with him often enough... But he was no Dick Riordan, prancing around in Gay Day parades or kissing illegals.
To: Sabertooth
ok, agreed. Pete wasn't Riordan, but he created the climate where people like Riordan, and before Riordan, Tom Campbell and Michael Huffington (who, if I recall correctly, is currently undergoing a sex-change operation), are able to secure the nomination of the party that brought Reagan into politics.
To: Impeach98
To be honest, the only TV ad I've seen here in the Central Valley is for Riordan and I think he's wasting his money. I would love to see Simon's Guiliani ads but I haven't seen any running here. Since Jones doesn't have any money, I don't think we're going to see any from him. His support was largely from individuals who didn't have a lot of money to give, as opposed to corporations.
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