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To: bandleader;mikenola;MadelineZapeezda;Kozak
I have worked in both university based counseling centers and psychiatric hospitals. This situation is not unique. The laws are writter based on a model code from the seventies which provided complete confidentialy to patients. Do you know that if your loved one has been picked up by police or ambulance and brought to a pscyiatric hospital, they have the perfect right to refuse to see or involve you, even if they are so disturbed that they are hallucinating and delusional and psychotic. Even if you are picking up the tab? The age this "privilige" begins varies from state to state.

And all mental health provides and hospitals can be sued if they break this confidentiality.

Our culture values autonomy more than it values anything. Even ridiculous autonomy of people with not ablility to judge, those who are incompetent.

The severely mentally have little insght or judgement. They kill themselves in horrifying ways, a severely mentally ill woman really doesnt care how her corpse looks, she just wants the pain to end.

In my opinion, the horror of having a severely mentally ill family member is tripled by becoming emeshed in a self perpetuating system that is looking for dependents.

18 posted on 01/27/2002 6:37:04 AM PST by mlmr
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To: mlmr
...is tripled by becoming emeshed in a self perpetuating system that is looking for dependents

Ain't that the truth. My idiot ex-wife made friends with this dumb **** social worker who gave her advice.
Completely destroyed our marriage. She broke the first two rules of counseling: Do no harm and never give advice to some you know,

which just makes it more disgusting.

Tried counseling, but those con artists just made everything worse. Their solution was more therapy.

Back to the social worker. She had a client/ex-client that was murdered. I'm convinced she gave advice that was not
"appropriate" to the poor woman's situation, just like her advice generated distrust and the breakdown of communication in my marriage.

I swear she's the Typhoid Mary of therapists.

Lessons learned the hard and expensive way, though I never set out to enroll in these lessons:

1.) Adage: "Therapists are like shoes. You got to find the one that fits" is not completely true. You may need ski boots,
sh!tkickers, flipflops, scuba fins...
I knew a person that's been through 20+, and she's survived so far. Or should I say in spite of?

2.) Avoid any "mental health professional" that got their degree from Boston University. They must require courses in con artistry
in place of thorough understanding and application of the DSM(?) and ethics. At least try out someone from a different
school. (I'd say school of thought, but I have no idea about that stuff.)

3.) "Therapy" is a black art and it comes with unintended consequences. You cannot take a blood test and determine that you need 20 minutes of self-esteem, 10 mins of self-flagellation, X milligrams of Soma, 2.5 martinis, and a swift kick in the @ss, or whatever. If it works for somebody, great.

4.) "Keep passing the open windows" (Hotel New Hampshire?)

49 posted on 01/27/2002 12:52:44 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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