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Outrage--SNL Insults Christians, Pro-Lifers
Montag

Posted on 01/26/2002 9:02:00 PM PST by montag813

Did anyone see the disturbing (and quite unfunny) "TV Funhouse" segment on SNL this evening?

They were attempting (one supposes) to insult Pat Robertson, but succeeded only in ridiculing Christians and those who value life and the unborn.

They portrayed a fictional Robertson-sponsored cartoon, in which "embyonic cell" and "Ted Trimester" (1st-trimester fetus) characters were placed in a work environment, as if they were high-powered workers. The characters were unintelligable, yet the other adult characters responded as if those two were geniuses. Also interspersed were a "Mr Parkinson" man seeking to kill the fetuses for their stem cells, who, upon being shown Jesus' image by the the "cell" character, ripped up a homosexual porno magazine (the "Robertson" scharacter asserts that if someone has a disease like Parkinsons it must be because Jesus is punishing them for being gay) and gives up his gun.

The message was clear: it is absurd to suppose that life begins at conception, because it is absurd to suppose that fetuses could function in the workplace. Also the piece asserts that one would have to be an extremist, homophobic Christian to value the unborn or have a problem with harvesting fetuses for stem cells.

Christianity is mocked and absurdly portrayed throughout the piece, which received very few laughs from the audience (do they really expect it to be funny?)

My wife and I were shocked by this, and the more we thought about it, the more disturbed we became.

montag


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To: jlogajan
What are they supposed to do? Pat Robertson is an idiot. To not make fun of him would be extremely biased in a very bizzare way

No kidding.

My point is that I exersized my right to change the channel. Robertson has been assigned poster boy status by many including SNL. I know right away the skit is going to be one devaluing the horror of abortion. I am not watching it. I am glad to see a thread on it anyway.
141 posted on 01/27/2002 8:22:48 AM PST by RLJVet
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To: jlogajan
The only posts I have seen deleted had racist comments or amounted to nothing more then f**** you posts. Liberal arguments and debates are not deleted from what I can tell. JimRob just posted yesterday that bash fests or flames will be deleted and debates will not. The problem is some people believe that flaming/bashing is an argument when it is not.
142 posted on 01/27/2002 8:23:17 AM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Restorer
You are the one stating that a violation of posting rules is occurring on a regular basis.

Sheesh. Here's what I said. "I just assume a deleted post was an outstanding rebut of a conservative positional weakness that conservativism can't figure out how to answer. If the censors don't want to leave that impression, they should leave the post undeleted so that our own individual minds can assess its quality."

143 posted on 01/27/2002 8:24:21 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
bash fests or flames will be deleted and debates will not.

80% of this forum is liberal bashing. So that little rule only seems to apply when conservatives are "bashed" which is defined as anything they really really don't like being said against them.

144 posted on 01/27/2002 8:27:06 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: RLJVet
I'm with you; as soon as I saw PR I knew it was downhill from there. I watched the cartoon for a couple of minutes, and then I switched channels; less because I was offended and more so because it was stupid.

I have an acquaintance who is a comedian in Chicago, and he has submitted some scenes that have been accepted and aired on SNL. Right now he is working on an Ayn Rand skit. He sums it up by saying the skit is about the too soon departed mommies of Ayn's disciples. Now that's a parody with some promise.

145 posted on 01/27/2002 8:28:41 AM PST by Aedammair
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To: MHGinTN; montag813; all
This is an unbelievable thread! Let me repeat what montag813 wrote:

They portrayed a fictional Robertson-sponsored cartoon, in which "embyonic cell" and "Ted Trimester" (1st-trimester fetus) characters were placed in a work environment, as if they were high-powered workers. The characters were unintelligable, yet the other adult characters responded as if those two were geniuses. Also interspersed were a "Mr Parkinson" man seeking to kill the fetuses for their stem cells, who, upon being shown Jesus' image by the the "cell" character, ripped up a homosexual porno magazine (the "Robertson" scharacter asserts that if someone has a disease like Parkinsons it must be because Jesus is punishing them for being gay) and gives up his gun.

This isn't about Pat Robinson, getting ridiculed, or Republicans getting ridiculed, or Christianity getting ridiculed, it's about making a joke about killing defenseless fetuses.

Never mind. I guess it must be me, no sense of humor /sarcasm.

146 posted on 01/27/2002 8:29:48 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: jlogajan
Very interesting. You accuse others (the moderators) of intellectual dishonesty. Then when politely asked for proof that your claim is true, you retreat to a position that no proof is needed since you just assumed that it is true.

How would you like it if I posted an accusation against you and then stated that I was not required to either prove it or retract it because I was "assuming" it?

As I have pointed out, it would be quite easy for you to accumulate proof, and if you get some I would be interested in seeing it.

Put up or shut up.

147 posted on 01/27/2002 8:31:11 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Prodigal Daughter
it's about making a joke about killing defenseless fetuses.

You are aware, I presume, that there is another view other than your own about abortion? You seem to be saying that only your view should be allowed to air.

148 posted on 01/27/2002 8:32:17 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: Restorer
You accuse others (the moderators) of intellectual dishonesty.

That's true. Some are. Unfortunately they are anonymous.

149 posted on 01/27/2002 8:33:32 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Most of the deleted liberal posts have some flame content to them. Liberal + flame + complaint = delete. I have never had one of my posts which expresses a left of center idea deleted, be it on gay marriage, the evils of privitization of social security, campaign finance reform, pro progessive taxation, pro land use control, pro gun show restrictions, etc. Cheers.
150 posted on 01/27/2002 8:34:03 AM PST by Torie
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To: jlogajan
You are aware, I presume, that there is another view other than your own about abortion? You seem to be saying that only your view should be allowed to air.

Frankly, I would think that even few pro-choice people find abortion funny. Except for the extreme weirdos who think of it as some sort of sacrament, I suspect most people find it at best a very regrettable necessity, and not a particularly fertile source of humor.

151 posted on 01/27/2002 8:35:53 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Leclair10
On the positive Tina Faye who hosts the news on SNL is closet Bushie and her mother worked on his campaign.

Tina Fey is a rightie? That's good to know - she's a smart chica. She's been SNL's head writer for a few years now, and she's got just the right amount of dryness in her wit for Weekend Update. She and Jimmy Fallon are the best anchors they've had in quite some time.
152 posted on 01/27/2002 8:36:10 AM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Torie
Most of the deleted liberal posts have some flame content to them.

Maybe. But conservatives flame away 24/7 on this forum and are seldom censored. Therefore it is political bias that controls the delete button -- not flames per se.

153 posted on 01/27/2002 8:36:29 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Yes, flames up to a point are OK if the post is conservative (provided it is not paleo conservative; those folks are on a tighter leash). Jim makes no bones about the fact that he has certain ideological filters.
154 posted on 01/27/2002 8:38:42 AM PST by Torie
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To: jlogajan
You accuse others (the moderators) of intellectual dishonesty.

That's true. Some are. Unfortunately they are anonymous.

If you accuse others, even as a group, of intellectual dishonesty, you should yourself have the intellectual honesty to present proof of your asertion.

Look, some posts obviously should be pulled. Somebody has to make a judgment call about any particular post. All I am requesting is your evidence that routine abuses are taking place.

I'll bet you anything that if (most of) the deleted posts were left up you would be screaming about the bigotry and hatred FR is promoting.

155 posted on 01/27/2002 8:39:50 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Restorer
I would think that even few pro-choice people find abortion funny.

You'd have to accept ProdigalDaughter's characterization of the segment. In fact the funny part was the characterization of Christian evangalists assuming a picture of Jesus is going to sway people's opinions 180 degrees, or as I say, their constant scriptural quoting attempting to overcome the weight of fossil evidence and the like.

She could say that a parody of Christian young earthers means I think digging fossils is funny. But that would be an odd characterization.

156 posted on 01/27/2002 8:40:50 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
You are free to leave the forum since you obviously have some big problems with the way it is being run. People get tired of such self-centered whining.
157 posted on 01/27/2002 8:41:11 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Torie
Jim makes no bones about the fact that he has certain ideological filters.

Ha, but apparently there are others here that assert it never or seldom happens. ha ha

158 posted on 01/27/2002 8:42:05 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: Cultural Jihad
You are free to leave the forum

Gosh, that's big of you.

159 posted on 01/27/2002 8:43:57 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: Aedammair
Darn, I need to be more familiar with Ayn Rand's writings. To be intellectually challenged in watching SNL WOULD be great.
160 posted on 01/27/2002 8:44:39 AM PST by RLJVet
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