[Sabertooth]

? ?an we unify for the 2002 election cycle and beyond without eating our own and showing division in public?

President Bush is sitting at 80% to 90% in the polls, yet we know that 40% will never vote Republican... And those are the very voters who would favor the Surrender-leaning immigration iniatives coming from Pennsylvania Ave.

The Swing Voters are with most Americans, who oppose these policies by 70% to 80%.

Seems to me that on this, the President risks eating his own and dividing our unity in public. Better to make noise here in January than to risk folly in November, don't you think?

[Cold Heat]

Looks to me like he is on board with us Saber. He can't please all the people all the time, but 9/11 did change the policy direction. Major changes on immigration were hinted at during the x-mas break. They are now talking about deportation and asking for the money to do it. We need to support that and not refer to pre-911 trial balloons.IMHO.

This is going to take time and alot of dough. We can't spend the dough unless we run a temporary deficit spending spree. This needs to be supported as well unless we want gridlock and no progress on the most important issues of our time.

[WRhine]

Seems to me that on this, the President risks eating his own and dividing our unity in public. Better to make noise here in January than to risk folly in November, don't you think?

Well said Sabertooth. Airing our differences is healthy and let's get real, sometimes debates can turn heated. So What? That is part of the passion of politics. From what I see, there are WAY TOO MANY thin-skinned and overly-sensitive people on this forum that like to hit the "abuse" button WAY TOO MUCH. All this does, more often than not, is involve the moderators in petty arguments leaving them less time to combat the major infractions that happen from time to time on this board.