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1 posted on 01/25/2002 8:45:31 PM PST by gcruse
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Lurkers: Yes, there are some bad people who have gotten into the Catholic church. Are they representative of the Church at large? Here is a study done regarding the priesthood.

This accusation usually comes up in the context of Protestants suggesting that we Catholics should do away with priestly celibacy. I haven’t taken the time to edit it, so please understand I don’t think all of the words apply here, just the statistics.

If priests were allowed to marry, like Rabbi's or Lutheran ministers, the problem would go away.

Actually, you are dead wrong. From Pedophiles and Priests the only scholarly review on the issue I know of:

1. How widespread is pedophilia among priests?

Commentators have suggested between 5 and 10 percent. That figure has been presented by various "experts" and widely used by the media. However, true pedophilia--sexual contact between an adult and pre-pubescent child--is extremely rare in the priesthood. The best estimate is "0.3 percent of the whole body of clergy." (p 82) The most extensive study which considered 2,252 priests over a thirty year period found only one case of pedophilia. It involved a priest-uncle with two six-year-old nieces. The number of pederasts or ephebophiles (priests involved, usually homosexually, with an adolescent minor) was much larger, but still less than two percent. Jenkins traces how those figures were blown up and presented without nuance in the media. 3. Does the celibacy requirement increase the likelihood that a priest will be a sex offender? Jenkins details how the media accounts of clergy sex abuse emphasized not only "cover up" but the celibacy factor. The view presented repeatedly was that the type of formation around this unrealistic requirement contributed to the supposed widespread sex abuse among priests. However, the difficulty with the argument is that there is no proof the problem is greater among priests than Protestant ministers—or even other service professionals, like teachers or physicians. It is worth noting that while the case involving former priest James Porter received massive media attention, the equally scandalous case of Protestant minister Tony Leyva got only limited coverage.

The difference in coverage and the emphasis on the celibacy requirement cannot wholly be blamed on anti-Catholic bias in the secular media. In fact, as Jenkins documents, much of the fuel came from division within the Catholic Church. Those advocating married clergy and women priests jumped on this crisis to promote their cause. On the other side conservatives pointed out that most of the cases went back to the 60's, a time when the Church began to absorb the general laxness in sexual morality. Also since most of the cases involved homosexual activity, they questioned the wisdom of ordaining men with a gay orientation. However, as Jenkins shows, the conservatives had little success in promoting their view. The crisis was inevitably seen as a failure of a bankrupt all male hierarchy, repressive seminary formation, moral rigidity, anti-woman bias and other bete noires of liberal Catholics.

The suggestion that pedophilia is more widespread among the clergy is propaganda. However, some people are determined to believe otherwise.

3 posted on 01/25/2002 8:55:09 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: gcruse
As usual, the coverup is worse than the crime. But let's not lose sight of the fact that this problem has been going on for a long time. In fact for hundreds of years.

Many believe it is the policy of marrying a priest to the church instead of a woman. I believe it is that society has sick people and they are difficult to weed out. Hell, we can't even keep pedofiles out of the Boy Scouts. It is always said, "no body knew!"

They are always found after it's too late. At least we can say we try.

5 posted on 01/25/2002 9:10:07 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: gcruse
The Roman Catholic archdiocese here seemed more preoccupied with avoiding a scandal involving a pedophile priest than making sure the priest had no further contact with children, documents released today suggest.

No shit....

19 posted on 01/26/2002 5:09:04 PM PST by unamused
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Is it possible for a church to declare bankruptcy? If this were any private business faced with this kind of legal prospect they'd simply throw in the towel. There are already something like 100 victims of Geoghan lined up to collect their winnings in the pedophile lottery. Juries are not going to be very sympathetic to the good cardinal on this. Awards (or negotiated settlements) are going to be very large. We probably haven't seen the end of the Geoghan victims yet. Every jury award will convince more former victims to come forward with a civil suit. There will be no shortage of lawyers ready to assist them. (Probably more lawyers than devout Catholics in Boston these days.) And remember, Geoghan is only one of how many known pedophiles who have been sheltered by the church? It must be difficult for church-going Catholics to put that envelope in the collection plate every Sunday, knowing that most of it is being used to pay legal damages.
75 posted on 01/27/2002 6:30:39 PM PST by Moosilauke
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To: grlfrnd
If you really want an explanation of what is happening in regard to my Religion, you should read this thread. Please try and keep an open mind, and consider how true faitful Catholics feel about the situation. Or will you act just like Faith_j?
224 posted on 02/02/2002 5:45:19 AM PST by JMJ333
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