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NO but I used to go to his church in San Diego every sunday where the implications were made of rapture imminence quite often.

I was naive then. I believed him as did thousands of folks enamored with his marvelous "ministry". Looks like he still has plenty of sheep to shear. I for one, got sheared one time too many.

EVERY major ministry KNOWS that rapture doctrine is a fund raiser and an "interest builder". Predicting the future demise of the world is more exciting than "miss cleo's" readin's, but probably not as accurate. hee hee.

And that is what all this end-time prophecy stuff is, a christianized form of soothsaying, tarot-cards and palm reading. No man KNOWS the day or the hour. At best we can know that there are seasons when the world appears to be ripe for judgment, and seasons when we are to plant, sow, and do our work.

This is the season for planting, sowing and working... not speculating about when the unknowable is going to happen.

Don't feed the bears and they will stop coming around. Funny some folks look at these end time speculators and see a "great man of God" telling the truth. Whilst I see "Miss Cleo" wearin a three-piece suit darlin', and takin' up an offerin', "ah even assept visa and masterchardge darlin'" it is laughable if it were not so pathetic.

When they stop accepting credit cards (collecting usury against a fellow believer, or familly member was illegal in biblical times) to sell their goods and stop putting little blue haired old ladies off their medication to "save just one more sould for Jesus", sell their extra three or four estate properties, and so on, maybe then they will have a little more credibility.

Do you have any ideas why Mr. LaHaye might have had to leave the three churches he was pastoring in San Diego?

Some things are better left unsaid. You support and believe who you want to, and do so at your own peril or benefit. I for one would not give the man one red cent.

I find your assignment of sin to this Godly man despicable. He preaches the soon return of Christ (as did Paul) and you translate that into his being an unrepentant swindler, a heretic, and filled with greed. (Of course, all of that would also mean he is headed for hell.) It's also amazing to me that you would insinuate that he was driven from pulpits in this forum where neither you nor he can be addressed in the context of biblical church discipline. Unbelievable.

James 4:11

This is the season for planting, sowing and working... not speculating about when the unknowable is going to happen.

I've noticed that people's view on end times seem to be a big influence on what they think a Christian's duties are for today.

Those that take a future view (the stuff in Revelation hasn't happened yet), don't seem to focus so much on improving the world (if it's all going to be destroyed in the tribulation, why improve it), but do seem to focus a lot on converting people to Christiantiy (getting people saved).

Those that take a past view (the stuff in Revelation has already happened) seem to focus more on doing good works and improving the world as it is now, and less on converting people to Christianity (why the should focus less on converting people, I'm not sure, but it does seem to be true.)