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To: Chapita
I do not believe that all speeches were covered in the recordings of the Congessional Record from this time period. An appeal to the congressional record may well not yield every speech given from this time period at all and therefore is not necessarily a valid reference.

It may be likely that the speech giver themself would have the speech written down or recorded. The best reference would be a document or reference to a document that indicates they either had in their possession or had read the written speech. I do not believe that exists either, but am not familiar with the bibliography of the referenced book. One thing seems certain, Ellis wrote serious non-fiction later in his life and this was a product of it.

So, in the end, this particular speech, and perhaps many more, become a matter of specualtion and belief. The arguement should be couched in those terms rather than the unforgiving, absolute terms that some seem to want to couch it in IMHO.

I for one believe that is would be like Crockett to do this and believe he could have said it. Did he actually say it? Can;t say and don;t know.

Regards.

72 posted on 01/23/2002 2:04:07 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
What can't be credibly challenged since history is most often a story of events before our time?
74 posted on 01/23/2002 2:09:32 PM PST by Chapita
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To: Jeff Head
Like AppyPappy, I believe in the Bible, but there are a whole lot of people in this world who will dispute it's validity!
75 posted on 01/23/2002 2:11:17 PM PST by Chapita
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