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I agree with pretty much what both of u have said..... and i think u both have it pretty much right....... but i see one thing as being wrong, or at least questionable.... I think people should look less to the courts to fix the problem..... how about looking at ways of preventing the problem ( i guess the prenup does that, but it still requires all that legal crap, and a willing spouse)..... it seems to me that its more of a societal issue (people don't take marriage too seriously) that a legal issue....

ahhhh hell...... its all pot luck really...... like my father always said.... "getting married is like gambling, u can maximise your probability for success but its still a gamble.... it can go either way"

I think people should look less to the courts to fix the problem..... how about looking at ways of preventing the problem ( i guess the prenup does that, but it still requires all that legal crap, and a willing spouse)..... it seems to me that its more of a societal issue (people don't take marriage too seriously) that a legal issue....

Good idea. Do prenuptial agreements stand up in court? I think it'd be great if people wrote their own marriage contracts, instead of looking to the state and the courts to decide the minutest details.

Very true. Both parties, after the marriage, are capable of giving the other one a nasty surprise.

LOL..too true enrg. Your father was right on. I think the gamble is on both sides. I was addressing those who were ridiculously on the side of it being gamble for men mainly, when there are still(maybe not in the same # as years past)plenty of women getting screwed too who agreed with thier dh's to stay home.

I agree, enough people don't take marriage seriously and the law is way too deep into it, but how do you eliminate that when people can't get along with each other during a divorce, and even with prenups, constantly challenge them when a marriage is finally over?

.... I think people should look less to the courts to fix the problem.....

If they can do that. I think prenuptials would actually be a way to avoid lawyers and courts later. Before you marry, it would be better for each to have a clear understanding of each other's expectations about the wife working or what happens in the case of adultery etc from either party. In a way it sounds cynical but the way things are now isn't very good for any kids involved. Only the lawyers benefit.