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To: Demidog
I truly don't understand what you're getting at here.

That's obvious.

What game is going on? I read your historical piece. I read what he said again and it doesn't look like he's making the broad historical claims you say he is. Furthermore he is obviously being carefull not to be so stupid as to say that Israel is the most dangerous place on earth for Jews for longer than 5 decades as before then the most dangerous place for Jews was obviously Europe.

I can't help you if you can't read with comprehension. This is not about "the most dangerous place for Jews". This is about a false claim of harmony, whether in Palestine or in Islam in general. He lies there therefore his Torah nonsense is undermined.

As far as Arab Islamics engaging in "countless" wars against the Jews, Why would they? The Jews haven't had any political power in the region for 1300 years apart from the state of Israel.

???????????? We're talking about Jihading and dhimmizing settled Jewish communties and the treatment of the dhimmized Jew since their subjugation. Where's your head at?

And contrary to your seeming inference that I am against the Jews or Israel I am not. I believe that the state of Israel has a right to exist and does exist. Whether or not Zionism was or is a good policy is a side issue and an interesting debate were anyone to bother with the points made by this gentleman. That's the only reason I posted it.

Your comments betray you consistently.

You continue to try to assign some particular motive to my posts. None of it is based on what I've said unfortunately.

Your motives are patently evident as they consistently involve some anti-Israel aspect. Why don't you just admit and quit the ruse. Now what was that bit about , " Moslem empire had fallen "? I really want to know.

244 posted on 01/20/2002 9:26:26 PM PST by Lent
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To: Lent
Your motives are patently evident as they consistently involve some anti-Israel aspect.

Wrong. My motive is the dismantling of support via force of Israel. Not by Israel but by the U.S. It's bad for Israel but most importantly it's bad for the U.S. If Americans want to support Israel with their own money on a voluntary basis that is perfectly fine with me.

247 posted on 01/20/2002 9:31:19 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Lent
You are aware that the Moslem Empire and the Ottoman Empire were not the same aren't you?
251 posted on 01/20/2002 9:33:40 PM PST by Demidog
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