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To: Ridin' Shotgun;demidog
"The fact that this man (as well as many others) is calling for justice for all of mankind seems to bother you."

Where did I indicate that it bothers me? I charge that he is a fraud. Notice he did not cite a tractate from the Talmud, no page number, no verse. He expected you to accept his opinion on FAITH knowing that you are ignorant of Torah and Talmud. Just saying so does not make it so. Since he did not give a reference I see nothing to refute. The faith that you refuse to give to me, you adequately give to him. WHY? Could it be that his hatred of Israel (MLK winks here) rises to an acceptable level?

But I did give reasons why not to accept his opinion and that of Neurei Karta in general. If more than 90% of TORAH faithful Jews reject them, I would think that that in itself speaks volumes.

As I mentioned, they would be comparable (G-d forgive me for the comparison) to our Taleban and AL-Qeda. They believe that Jews who do not agree with them are similar to what the radical Muslims call Kafirs. In other words, if the Arabs eradicated Jews who do not agree with them they would not shed tears, but would use those deaths as proof that their opinion is sacred! Perverse.

You accept him because you espoused his opinion before you ever heard of him. You believe that the Jewish presence is an abomination. I think that opinion is abominable.

Those who bless us will be blessed and the rest get Arafat, Assad, Osama, etc.

171 posted on 01/20/2002 2:00:54 PM PST by rebdov
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To: rebdov
But I did give reasons why not to accept his opinion and that of Neurei Karta in general.

Yes. You specifically uttered the words "trust me."

The 90% number comes from where? I don't know which one of you is "right" if either of you is right. There hasn't been a debate about what is really said in the Talmud for us to know here or elsewhere. I was actually hoping that some of that would occur here.

191 posted on 01/20/2002 4:15:03 PM PST by Demidog
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