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ROBERT E. LEE'S DEFINITION OF A GENTLEMAN
My Archives ^ | 19th Century | General Robert E. Lee in a letter to one of his sons

Posted on 01/19/2002 5:03:13 PM PST by LadyJD

LEE's DEFINITION OF A GENTLEMAN

"The forbearing use of power does not only form a touchstone, but the manner in which an individual enjoys certain advantages over others is a test of a true gentleman. The power which the strong have over the weak, the employer over the employed, the educated over the unlettered, the experienced over the confiding, even the clever over the silly-the forbearing or inoffensive use of all this power or authority, or a total abstinence from it when the case admits it, will show the gentleman in a plain light. The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He cannot only forgive, he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which impart sufficient strength to let the past be but the past. A true man of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others." --Robert E. Lee


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To: rwz
My pleasure.

**"There is no sacrifice that I am not willing to make for the preservation of Union save that of honor." –Robert E. Lee**

21 posted on 01/19/2002 6:04:54 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: Ditter
Yeah Orwell wrote a book about that kind of torture of the language!

Here is the antidote as prescribed by General Lee:

“My Precious Life, I hope you will find time to read and improve your mind. Read history, works of truth, not novels and romances. Get correct views of life, and learn to see the world in its true light. It will enable you to live pleasantly, to do good, and when summoned away, to leave without regret.” --Robert E. Lee to his daughter Mildred

22 posted on 01/19/2002 6:07:33 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: LadyJD
Bump
23 posted on 01/19/2002 6:08:53 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: sheltonmac
A 'southern gentlemanly' BUMP
24 posted on 01/19/2002 6:18:43 PM PST by sola gracia
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To: LadyJD
Thanks, I would greatly enjoy that although I know I would be moved to tears.
I love Stonewall Jackson, what a man!
I love vacationing, traveling in the South.
I thought of retiring somewhere in the South but I don't like the intense heat
and would miss the snow too much.
25 posted on 01/19/2002 6:25:14 PM PST by apackof2
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To: LadyJD
EXcellent advice! I have already done it! I have given up watching TV news.
26 posted on 01/19/2002 6:32:57 PM PST by Ditter
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To: LadyJD
"It is well that war is so terrible, or we should get too fond of it."
27 posted on 01/19/2002 6:37:06 PM PST by solzhenitsyn
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To: LadyJD
"I cannot trust a man to control others who cannot control himself."
28 posted on 01/19/2002 6:39:27 PM PST by solzhenitsyn
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To: Fiddlstix
" I came into the army with the hope and desire of rendering aid to the great and glorious cause of Southern independence, prompted by principle, religiously believing that the time had arrived when we were justifiable in resisting Northern aggression with the bayonet, and even at the expense of this once unparalleled Republic. As for my part I don't want to survive a subjugation of my country." –Col. John F. Goodner, CSA

”Stripped of all its covering, the naked question is, whether ours is a federal or consolidated government; a constitutional or absolute one; a government resting solidly on the basis of the sovereignty of the States, or on the unrestrained will of a majority; a form of government, as in all other unlimited ones, in which injustice, violence, and force must ultimately prevail." –Calhoun, 1831

"What was once a Constitutional Federal Republic, is now converted in reality into one as absolute as that of the autocrat of Russia, and as despotic in its tendency as any absolute government that ever existed." --John C. Calhoun, Southern statesman and visionary in his last speech to Congress, 1850

"Before you, in proud humility, is the embodiment of manhood; men whom neither toils and sufferings, nor the fact of death, nor disaster, nor hopelessness could bend from their resolve." --Union General Joshua Chamberlain to his troops at Appomattox, 1865.

29 posted on 01/19/2002 6:46:35 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: LadyJD
"Never do a wrong thing to make a friend or to keep one."

I like that one; it has special meaning to me.

30 posted on 01/19/2002 6:48:01 PM PST by solzhenitsyn
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To: solzhenitsyn
"I had jes give Marse Robert his breakfas' an' went to git old Traveler fer him to ride ter battle. Traveler was Marse Robert's horse what followed him 'round same as a dog would, and would never step on de dead men, but allers walked betwixt and aroun' 'em.” –William Mack Lee, Robert E. Lee’s emancipated slave, wartime cook, friend and beneficiary.
31 posted on 01/19/2002 6:49:14 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: solzhenitsyn
A hard to find one:

"Distance does not lend enchantment to the old fellow's greatness I assure you. The nearer he comes, the higher he looms up. It is plain, simple, unaffected greatness. It is just as natural and easy for him to be great as it is for me to be ordinary, and there is probably less affectation about it." ---General John Bratton, CSA, commenting on Robert E. Lee in a letter to his wife in 1865.

32 posted on 01/19/2002 6:52:09 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: solzhenitsyn
It expresses the utmost in true loyalty.
33 posted on 01/19/2002 6:53:27 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: LadyJD
I have the highest esteem for Gen. Lee personally, but I'm glad the United States of America was preserved intact and I'm glad slavery was ended forever in this country.

My father has a book of Gen. Lee's letters. I've enjoyed reading them. He was a great general and a great man.

34 posted on 01/19/2002 6:58:03 PM PST by solzhenitsyn
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To: LadyJD
Re the quote in your reply no. 32: Thank you, that one is beautiful, and I'm sure I've never seen it before.
35 posted on 01/19/2002 7:00:44 PM PST by solzhenitsyn
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To: LadyJD
My father took the family to Lee's gravesite many years ago. We stood in silence. He said (paraphrasing) "Here lies one of the greatest American patriots who ever lived. His love of country and love of honor and love of what is right knows no boundaries. He did what he did not because of honor but he also simply did what he had to do. His country called. He answered." Defintion of a hero? Just a gentleman? Just a hero? Gracious no. He was a super-hero and a super-gentleman. This country is so much the poorer for not having enough men like RELEE today.
36 posted on 01/19/2002 7:09:46 PM PST by soozer47
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To: LadyJD
"It is all my fault."

Robert E. Lee to the shattered remnants of Pickett's division.

(Can anyone imagine William Jefferson Clinton ever uttering those words?)

37 posted on 01/19/2002 7:12:11 PM PST by Polybius
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To: solzhenitsyn
You are quite welcome.

I have found that what the men wrote home to their wives gives the best insight into their thoughts and character. In that day and age when sickness, disease, and the elements conspired to take many a soul to an early grave, the family men tended to express themselves very directly and very transparently.

Here is one about the unsung "Lee" of South Carolina:

"In one engagement he had seen one son fall; and, sending another son to his succor, had seen him fall, too, and had ridden back to kiss the dying youth and whisper in his ear -- then back to the fight and to sleep on the ground that night in the rain, not knowing the fate of his children." –On General Wade Hampton, CSA from “The Tragic Era” pg. 509

38 posted on 01/19/2002 7:12:39 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: soozer47
This country is so much the poorer for not having enough men like R.E. LEE today.

But your father did the right thing. If we, as a people, are to produce any more of them then our youth must first KNOW about them. You should commend your father and thank him.

39 posted on 01/19/2002 7:16:05 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: LadyJD
Robert E. Lee was the consummate gentlemen. One of the truly great men of our history.
40 posted on 01/19/2002 7:17:10 PM PST by calmseas
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