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To: Dales
Respectfully, you are confused! If you are refering to the 'Dueling Twins' article: Campaign Reform http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartre/TWINS/id3.html you are not understanding the argument in the Point segment. If you are reading JH from the Left, that is NOT; SARTRE. In my reply to my political activities, I answered your question already. I was on the staff of all three campaigns. Let's get on the same page, at least to the extent of the correct identity. The issue is NOT about SARTRE, it is about the Ideas. The sum total of most of these posts avoid the arguments in the article. If anyone is serious about debate, forget the personalities and start defending the foreign policy of the War Party. So far your attempt to pledge loyalty to FR betrays conservative principles. SARTRE
122 posted on 01/17/2002 2:53:22 PM PST by SARTRE
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To: SARTRE
Sorry if I am interfering, but I felt compelled to say something.

We all share the horror and sadness for those who perished, and wish to bring all criminals to justice, but do you really believe that another bombing war will accomplish the goals that we both seek?

The ocean, a river full to it's banks, the hot burner on a stove, a tornado; None of these has mal-intent. But for the person that risks theirself by swimming out to far, touching a hot burner, or standing in the face of the tornado, the consequences are quick, and final.

This is how nature teaches it's lessons. That person won't do that again. Maybe that is the nature of war. We use force to stomp on the 'enemy' and hope they learn their lesson.

Humans are really all alike. When dealing with your children, if you tell them "don't do that or I will....." and you keep saying that every time they do that particular thing, but never follow through with the disciplinary action, THEY WILL NOT STOP.

As far as DECLARING WAR, I don't believe there is a law requiring the President to do so. (I could be wrong) President Bush, and past Presidents have or have not declared war based usually on certain political or economical reasons. I believe the idea that the U.S. must declare war to attack a foreign nation comes from NATO agreements.

Can anyone help me out here? I am not an expert in these matters, I will admit freely. I just don't believe SARTRE is correct either in saying the President is wrong for not declaring war.

135 posted on 01/17/2002 4:52:04 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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