Prism? Have you found God? Because if you are still an atheist, you just admited that without God, we have no rights, but those which we perceive.
What I want to know, is where the people ceded this right
When they chose to live or remain in a state that outlawed it.
describe its bounds
The Constitution. That don't seem too unending to me.
Then you can explain why I ceded a boundless bundle of "rights".
By living in the state of your choice. You can't own all the rights to your land, you cannot have the right to break the constitutional laws of the state. so....
If you can declare prostitution illegal because of its auxillary effects
A state can declare prostitution illegal for whatever the people therein wish. I see it as obscene, and a detriment to society, 100 fold over anything McDonalds does.
legalize the causing of harm, NOT what you deem the 'cause of the cause'.
Well see, here is the problem with that: Just as there can still be stupid, destructive laws that are well within the bounds of the Constitution, there can be shattered communities within a free society. Just because your society is free, does not necessarily mean that it will be any better off. People free to waste their lives on hard drugs and sleep around for money can be a great risk, if not the very destroyer of a community. Just as if you were to take away all corporate bylaws and allow them to reign freely, you would usher in the destruction of your economy. Complete freedom, is not always a good thing. We must have structure. For large groups of people to be able to function in communities they need to have common beliefs and values. The anarchical base of a Libertarian society would be the author of its own demise.
Good grief. -- This is sheer unadultrated communitarian propaganda.
They teachng this bullcrap at Texas A&M?
Freedom is eternal. The price for your freedom or the price for the consequences of your freedom may be high, yet eternal none the less. High prices for freedom are not a good thing.
We must have structure.
True freedom requires it.
For large groups of people to be able to function in communities they need to have common beliefs and values.
True. Local libertarian government is classic liberal in application. The right to contract and the right to property will naturally produce a community of common beliefs and values, totally absent the force of government. Freemen will voluntarily assemble to common beliefs.
The anarchical base of a Libertarian society would be the author of its own demise.
Libertarian government is not anarchy. Defending the sovereign against initiatory force is not possible in an anarchial form of government. Anarchy, badly exercized, can be the extreme abuse of freedom.
No, not exactly. I was graciously using a placeholder you would understand. My rights come from being a rational, concious, accountable creature.
The Constitution. That don't seem too unending to me.
The Constitution(s) can be changed, and that is my point.
. I see it as obscene, and a detriment to society, 100 fold over anything McDonalds does.
The degree is not the issue, can you enumerate this degree? In another post you were harping on 'subjectivity', are not your feelings of obscenity the ultimate in subjectivity?
Complete freedom, is not always a good thing. We must have structure
Definately. Here is the structure: The law is (has to be) constricted in its purpose to protecting people from harm, it is only allowed to do this mandate by punishing those who cause harm AFTER harm has occurred.
Any other methodology places no expressible limits on 'what may be done to prevent harm'. The result is an incremental erosion of freedom and the vast regulatory scheme and police/fascist state we have now.
It creates a society that drives its members insane. It bogs down with a topheavy, self-preserving bureaucracy that ultimately requires violent revolution to remove.
You seem to think, Im guessing, that the brakes can be applied, that we can tread water at 'just the right level of freedom'...
Look at reality, look at the past 100 years, are we becoming more free? Are we even slowing the tide? No. Because we have made a fatal mistake, we let the law be used for whatever motive we wish. THAT is a cancer, and picking away at parts of it is not going to work. It needs to be EXORCISED.
Partial slavery IS?