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To: Zon
When a person chooses to sell part or all of his labor it is not slavery.

Wrong.

Mr. Justice Miller, delivering the opinion of the majority of the court, after observing that the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth articles of amendment of the constitution were all addressed to the grievances of the negro race, and were designed to remedy them, continued as follows: "We do not say that no one else but the negro can share in this protection. Both the language and spirit of these articles are to have their fair and just weight in any question of construction. Undoubtedly, while negro slavery alone was in the mind of the congress which proposed the thirteenth article, it forbids any other kind of slavery, now or hereafter. If Mexican peonage or the Chinese coolie labor, system shall develop slavery of the Mexican or Chinese race within our territory, this amendment may safely be trusted to make it void.

(169 U.S. 649) UNITED STATES v. WONG KIM ARK. (March 25, 1898)

Slavery should remain unconstitutional, even if that conflicts with Libertarian style rationalizations about the nature of contract.

1,186 posted on 01/21/2002 12:34:50 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe

When a person chooses to sell part or all of his labor it is not slavery. [1184 Zon]

Wrong.

There's at least 150 million Americans that sell part of their labor every day. They sell their labor by choice. Employers don't initiate force or coercion to make people work for the business. The only initiation of force is the IRS "legitimized" extortion.

Slavery should remain unconstitutional, even if that conflicts with Libertarian style rationalizations about the nature of contract.

In the post you responded to I explained that slavery is illegal because it is the initiation of force. Here's the quote...

"Slavery is the initiation of force. When a person chooses to sell part or all of his labor it is not slavery. The person has a choice and there is no initiation of force that caused his or her decision. Modern day slavery is expressed with the IRS and income tax that is "legitimized" extortion -- initiated force and coercion." [1184]

The Libertarian doctrine as it is read by honest people do not equate choice to work (selling ones own labor) with slavery.

I'm not a Libertarian. A person need not be a Libertarian to expose your dishonest tactics.



1,189 posted on 01/21/2002 1:10:58 PM PST by Zon
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