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To: jslade, shuckmaster
I really liked this one. Who would want to live in the north? I know it's a nice place for visiting.

I liked the part best about Lee. It's true. If Lee had listened to good advice, then the south probably would've continued it's string of victories and could've prevailed in that war.

But god had his hand on us then, that day and determined that the south would lose that day. I honor those in traversed that field under General Pickett. I have no respect for those Americans who don't. I feel the same way about Lee.

I am descendent from those who fought on both sides, although mostly from those who fought for the north. Regardless, real americans honor both sides.

Some people believe that because the south allowed slavery think that they were somehow bad guys. The north allowed slavery until 1820. They're not bad guys.

George Washington, Lincon and MLK counseled us as a people to work hard at binding ourselves together. Lincoln's wife was a southerner and he counseled immediate forgiveness. Real Americans follow his advice.

Some sour people in the northeast wish the south weren't even in the US, that's how bigoted they are. I much prefer living in the south. I live in AZ and very much like the fact that some NE elite consider it a redneck state even though we weren't even in the US at the time of war. US Army that was in AZ served for union side, they call us a redneck state because some southerners live here. It is a big compliment that we made redneck status in their minds.

8 posted on 01/12/2002 4:25:42 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: Red Jones
I've never been further north than Baltimore & have no intentions of going there.
16 posted on 01/12/2002 4:36:47 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: Red Jones
Some sour people in the northeast wish the south weren't even in the US, that's how bigoted they are.

A lot of us in the South feel the same way!

21 posted on 01/12/2002 4:43:07 PM PST by jslade
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To: Red Jones
some NE elite

Nebraska elite? I don't think so.....

Or were you referring to Johnny Carson, Dick Cavet, Bob Kerry, Gerald Ford etc?

193 posted on 01/13/2002 4:56:53 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER
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To: Red Jones
Some sour people in the northeast wish the south weren't even in the US

LOL we wish we weren't in the union either - we'd do better OUT of the union!

P.S. Come on home, we'll keep the light on for ya!
248 posted on 01/13/2002 9:09:11 AM PST by GussiedUp
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To: Red Jones
I really liked this one. Who would want to live in the north? I know it's a nice place for visiting.

What is the north anyway? I live in Colorado, and couldn't imagine living anywhere else.

277 posted on 01/13/2002 2:51:53 PM PST by Nate505
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To: Red Jones
"Lincoln's wife was a southerner"

People often forget that Lincoln himself was a southerner before moving to Illinois, born in Kentucky.

335 posted on 01/14/2002 2:32:06 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Red Jones
Some people believe that because the south allowed slavery think that they were somehow bad guys. The north allowed slavery until 1820. They're not bad guys.

Some League of the South/Southern Independence Party types won't agree. Thankfully, they are only a minority. But for some people, saying that the rebels weren't the bad guys is only the first step on the way to making the union or the Yankees the bad guys.

Some sour people in the northeast wish the south weren't even in the US, that's how bigoted they are.

That's much more of a class or elite or ideological thing. I doubt you'd hear much talk of that apart from liberal activists and Democrat contributors There are plenty of country music or NASCAR fans in the Northeast. A lot of them even identify more with the South than with their own part of the country.

428 posted on 11/09/2003 9:04:46 AM PST by x
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To: Red Jones
"The north allowed slavery until 1820" - RJ

Ummm - categorically false.

Slavery was legal in the Union during the war and well after it.

The EP declared freedom for slaves in some areas of the South, but not all. I recommend you read the actual text. It is enlightening to many.

Regards,

432 posted on 11/10/2003 6:55:24 AM PST by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Red Jones
FYI, the north still had slaves a YEAR after Richmond fell.

GEN U.S. Grant held HIS slaves until 1866 (june 10th,if i remember correctly!). damnyankees are nothing if not the world's greatest hypocrytes!

TWBTS was about just ONE main cause = FREEDOM for dixie.

free the southland,sw

439 posted on 11/10/2003 7:51:49 AM PST by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red Jones
I liked the part best about Lee. It's true. If Lee had listened to good advice, then the south probably would've continued it's string of victories and could've prevailed in that war.

The South lost the war when Stonewall Jackson died.

445 posted on 11/10/2003 8:01:12 AM PST by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, raise at once the black flag!)
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To: Red Jones
Picachio Peak.
Westernmost battle (OK, westernmost, very minor, skirmish)in the war of northern aggression/Southern secession.
495 posted on 11/10/2003 12:22:20 PM PST by norton
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