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Windows Datacenter Server Limited Edition and SQL Server 2000 Advance over UNIX
Microsoft.com ^ | November 11, 2001

Posted on 01/10/2002 6:12:44 PM PST by Bush2000

New Platform Record on TPC-C Non-Clustered Benchmark Test
Windows Datacenter Server Limited Edition and SQL Server 2000 Advance over UNIX

Las Vegas, NV – November 11, 2001 - In his keynote address at Comdex today, Bill Gates announced a significant milestone for Microsoft's enterprise platform: a Unisys ES7000, running Windows Datacenter Server Limited Edition and SQL Server™ 2000 Enterprise Edition, set a new high-water mark for Windows performance on the prestigious TPC-C Non-Clustered Benchmark test. Auditors clocked this system processing an astounding 165,219 transactions per minute, a new world-record for Windows-based systems. Moreover, at $21.33 per transaction, this result lays claim to the best price-performance of any entry in the top ten performance list, whose remaining systems cost twice as much per transaction on average.

Redefining the Enterprise Operating Environment

Until recently, only UNIX systems could claim a place on the elite top-ten list for TPC-C Non-Clustered (single server) performers. Competition for these spots is intense, and server hardware manufacturers invest millions of dollars and countless hours vying for position. They are often rewarded for this in the marketplace, where enterprise customers rely on the integrity of TPC data as they evaluate new business platforms.

Now Windows is challenging this elite group, and making it hard for proprietary UNIX vendors to justify the high costs of their systems. With the introduction of Windows Datacenter Server on large-scale systems like the 32-processor Unisys ES7000, Windows and SQL Server now have a platform that can be measured against large-scale UNIX systems.

The results have been astounding. With today's announcement, Windows and SQL Server have not only moved to sixth place in the top ten performance list, they have staked a claim to the best price/performance of any system in the group. While the average price/performance of the other top ten performers is approximately $42 per transaction, Windows Datacenter Server Limited Edition is the leader at just over $21 per transaction, nearly twice as cost-effective. Windows has begun to shift the economics of large-scale systems as it has done with smaller servers and personal computers in the past.

A Changing Landscape

The performance record of Windows-based systems is growing with phenomenal speed. Windows has long been the undisputed leader for scalability on smaller systems—those equipped with one to four processors. Prior to the release of Windows 2000, Windows and SQL Server held four of the top ten performance records in the TPC-C Clustered benchmark. Today, Windows and SQL Server hold every result in the top ten, including the staggering world-record of 709,220 transactions per minute.

With today's result, Windows and SQL Server now hold two of the top ten performance results on the TPC-C Non-Clustered list—the benchmark that measures the performance of large, scale-up systems like the Unisys ES7000. Once the domain of costly proprietary vendors like Sun Microsystems, today's list includes Unisys, IBM, Compaq, HP, Fujitsu, and Bull—all members of the Windows 2000 Datacenter Server Program. Sun is no longer found on the top-ten TPC-C Non-Clustered performance list.

Sun's absence is not surprising given the effect Windows has had on the economics of single-server systems. A look at the top ten price/performance results on the TPC-C Non-Clustered benchmark shows that Windows 2000 and SQL Server 2000 occupy every record on the list.

Momentum Going Forward

Windows' performance record has been expanding rapidly, in both scale-up and scale-out arenas. The Windows 2000 Server Family and SQL Server 2000 hold world records on SAP-SD Three-tier, SAP-Retail, PeopleSoft eBill Payment, PeopleSoft 8 CRM, Onyx, Great Plains, and Pivotal eRelationship benchmarks.

Today's announcement marks one of the first results published on Windows Datacenter Server Limited Edition, part of the next generation of the Windows Server Family. With an impressive base of evidence on Windows 2000 and a glimpse of things to come, Windows is poised to extend its performance and scalability leadership well into the future.

Notes: Today's benchmark result was achieved using a 32-way Unisys ES7000 running Windows Datacenter Server Limited Edition and SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition. The system performed 165,219 transactions per minute (tpmC) at a cost/transaction of $21.33. The complete system will be available on March 10, 2002, while the Unisys ES7000 and SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition are available today. For more details, see http://www.tpc.org.


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To: Dominic Harr
Very well put.

I notice that Mr. Bush (the freeper) has clearly identified him or herself as a Microsoft Groupie aka employee and bona fide member of the gate's groupie's squad.

That MS would tout the results on a cheated test as being a fair benchmark for their software, while exempting every other highly competitive system on EQUALLY financed and equipped hardware; I find quite laughable; and very, very typical for MS. Liars and cheats.

Thanks for pointing it out and reminding us all why we need to keep the often better, faster, more accurate and economical systems at the forefront of our thinking and planning. That anyone at MS would honestly think that the high-level, more advanced caliber business/technology system purchasers would ever consider their systems after such blatant and apparent test manipulation and apparent misrepresentation says a lot about their product.

It truly smacks of the disdain and disrespect the entire organization has for the intelligence of the folks who MIGHT have otherwise considered their offerings in the near future.

They truly believe "there's a sucker born every minute." That is why they treat us so. And the pandering self-promotion of their product by employees on this website, in this non-commercial venue, where JIM has repeatedly asked us NOT to sell or promote our business or products; shows a real disrespect for this forum as well.

Since linux obviously sucks to the MS crowd, yet is a free system; perhaps jim should counter-promote their free os's and software offerings on this site; being that this is SUPPOSED to be a no sales, no profit venue. I for one am a little tired of the incessant "RAH RAH microslop..."

That is many of us get a little sick of it every day. Thanks for reminding me why.

61 posted on 01/10/2002 9:32:44 PM PST by eccl1212
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To: Bush2000
no bush2g-- its just not a apples to apples comparison is all. You know that. It's not "blame microsoft" its actually "microsoft attempts to sell another distortion of reality, as truth."

The announcement, press release is a meaningless comparison test result between apples and coconuts... MS does some things good. When it gets good enough, and stops leaking code, folks will start using it for more high end stuff, but until then--

62 posted on 01/10/2002 9:41:26 PM PST by eccl1212
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To: eccl1212
I just hope he's contributing $$$ to Jim and FR.

As much advertising as he's doing here . . .

63 posted on 01/10/2002 11:53:12 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: eccl1212
That MS would tout the results on a cheated test as being a fair benchmark...

Tell us all, if you would, why this is a "cheated test". But before you do, you do you realize how these tests are conducted, right? MS isn't the one running the show: It's the TPC.
64 posted on 01/11/2002 3:12:21 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Liberal Classic
Sure, but why not cite PC Week, or Information Week, or Yahoo, or CNET, other Ziff-Davis sources, or one of the circulars that come out for Networld/Interop/Comdex?

Because the actual source of the data is non-partisan and can easily be researched by anyone who is interested, that's why.
65 posted on 01/11/2002 3:13:19 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: magellan
Microsoft's margins are the highest of any publically traded technology company on the planet, much higher than Oracle's and much, much higher than Sun's.

Based on their performance on these tests, I don't wonder why anymore.

The "Non-" is a typo. Windows has all of the Clustered results, not all of the Non-Clustered results.

Wrong. Read the data at this URL and weep: http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_price_perf_results.asp?resulttype=noncluster. Do you understand what this means? MS offers the best price/performance combination for non-clustered configurations.

The really interesting information on how irrellevant TPC-C is ...

I'm sure that those who didn't win the competition now think it's irrelevant. But Sun and Oracle were touting the figures as late as last year. So, you might want to tell them that the numbers are irrelevant.

In short, TPC-C a database benchmark meant for small 1-4 processor RISC/UNIX systems with <50 MHz CPUs and a couple of dozen JBOD SCSI 1 disks now claims to be an "enterprise" benchmark, but nobody considered it an enterprise benchmark when it was released a decade ago.

What relevance does peoples' perceptions from a decade ago have?!? I mean, for Chrissake, people weren't really even running clustered, multi-proc databases a decade ago. The rules have changed. And, really, 32-way PC boxes are approaching the level of price/performance that would have previously been considered impossible. So, really, it's time you upgraded your thinking. You're a dinosaur.
66 posted on 01/11/2002 3:22:30 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: magellan
The ES7000 makes a nice display at a trade show, and is good for high-water mark benchmarks, but until customers trust Windows and SQL Server in the datacenter, it will be a niche machine.

There's little that MS can do to earn the trust of dinosaurs such as yourself. Even when confronted with superior value, you stick your heads in the sand.
67 posted on 01/11/2002 3:24:29 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Liberal Classic
I wondered about this. Microsoft on Compaq topped the Clustered benchmark, not the Non-Clustered one.

I'm beginning to wonder if you guys can follow links and interpret results. Go to this link:

http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_price_perf_results.asp?resulttype=noncluster

Note the title: Top Ten Non-Clustered TPC-C by Price/Performance
68 posted on 01/11/2002 3:29:36 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: toddhisattva
This running on Windos? Did they factor in all the downtime? Windos crashes about a hundred times more often than Unix. Well at least it will run all the nifty new .NET viruses!

Yes, it was running Windows. And, if there was any downtime, it didn't matter: Windows still beat Unix.
69 posted on 01/11/2002 3:31:09 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
It'll never sell. It comes in an unimaginative dull gray box -- with squared-off corners -- "designed" (*laff*) by boring straights.

Just who do they think they're kidding anyway?

70 posted on 01/11/2002 3:40:45 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
It'll never sell. It comes in an unimaginative dull gray box -- with squared-off corners -- "designed" (*laff*) by boring straights. Just who do they think they're kidding anyway?

How about if they get it to match the table lamps in the IT smoking lounge? And they hire a few gay designers to round off the corners?
71 posted on 01/11/2002 3:48:08 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Dominic Harr
"As much advertising as he's doing here"

You're a fine one to talk, Mr. Java Does It All, And Better Than Anything Else.

What rank hypocrisy.

72 posted on 01/11/2002 4:21:45 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Bush2000
Nope, because the DNC fax tree will put the word out that it's a cheap imitation of the real fake.
73 posted on 01/11/2002 4:24:22 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Bush2000
Having a bad bone day, gonna try to catch some shut-eye. Fight the good fight, comrade!
74 posted on 01/11/2002 4:33:13 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: SmartBlonde
Dumb blonde, everyone who spends any time getting software answers off the internet knows that Microsoft's competitors frequent the newsgroups and chat boards more than Microsoft's employees do. It's as if Microsoft thought everyone ought to $125 per support call to get any info out of them. This has amongst other things has hurt Microsoft in the software engineering community. (It ain't for nothing that Linux is so popular with geeks.)

Microsoft employees are now being encouraged to participate more and interact more. In the hope of turning the loathing for them in the IT field into something like mild dislike.

75 posted on 01/11/2002 5:34:43 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: WriteOn
Microsoft employees are now being encouraged to participate more and interact more. In the hope of turning the loathing for them in the IT field into something like mild dislike.

Ah, yes. More wisdom from the guy who said that JavaScript executes .vbs files...
76 posted on 01/11/2002 5:38:57 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Awwww. Microserf, we meet again. Did Bill let you out for the night? You know the thing that those little TPC benchmarks don't factor in? The sheer agony of trying to go with Microsoft as a platform solution. Given a choice between T-SQL and PL/SQL, it's a no-brainer. .Net has all the earmarks of a major disaster. C# wants to look like Java the way Michael Jackson wants to look like Diana Ross. Half of the ignoramuses coding VB won't be able to get up to speed on VB.Net and the other half won't want to go to .Net.

Yup, the TPC benchmarks don't factor in the major cost of trying to convert and keep up with Microsft's recurring tax on business.

77 posted on 01/11/2002 5:52:23 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: WriteOn
Yup, the TPC benchmarks blah, blah, blah...

Let me know when you can explain how JavaScript executes .vbs files. It pegs your technical expertise at zero.
78 posted on 01/11/2002 5:54:11 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Go find a post where I said "JavaScript executes .vbs files." You're outta your leaque Microserf.
79 posted on 01/11/2002 5:58:34 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: Bush2000
"Sayonara," the samurai says as he picks up the head of his now defunct opponent...
80 posted on 01/11/2002 6:16:45 PM PST by WriteOn
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