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Posted on 01/09/2002 12:52:12 PM PST by crystalk
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To: jrewingjr
"Anyone interested in Pre-Columbian North American history and archeology will enjoy this site, VERY interesting. Ancient American Magazine. Just received my second copy. Interesting 'stuff.'
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posted on
01/09/2002 6:51:59 PM PST
by
blam
To: crystalk
The Nunnery, in the southern group of ruins, contains some of the best preserved structures at Chichén Itzá.
Every square foot of wall has reliefs and paintings decorating it.
To: crystalk
Cohasset, Quissett, Sipsewissett, Segregansett.
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posted on
01/09/2002 7:09:54 PM PST
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crystalk
To: crystalk
Well done ... is there a picture of the runestone?
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posted on
01/09/2002 7:13:17 PM PST
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bvw
To: crystalk
Richard Feynman was quite an expert on Mayan culture and got me interested, so naturally I had to go see for myself. One guide book sold in Cancun has a photo of
The Observatory taken by moi.
Not this one though
To: razorback-bert
As I recall it the Nunnery, like the other structures at Chichen, had very rough surfaces in its interior spaces. I guess that you might find carvings or bas reliefs there, but honestly, I don't remember any murals or any interior surface finished enough to be suitable for a mural.
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posted on
01/09/2002 7:22:34 PM PST
by
PUGACHEV
To: bvw
The museum at Alexandria, Minn, has website www.runestonemuseum.org, but for better picture try:
http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/kens/kens4.gif
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posted on
01/09/2002 7:28:52 PM PST
by
crystalk
To: Aristophanes; blam
Picture avail alert.
You notice that for some reason, even though the back is all chiseled off nice and could be written as well as the front, they finished off the writing on the SIDE of the stone when they got 60% of the way down the front...
WHY? Were they going to stick it in the ground like a tombstone? When it was found the whole thing was flat a few inches underground and clasped in the roots of an aspen tree of some 75 yrs of age.
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posted on
01/09/2002 7:33:57 PM PST
by
crystalk
To: crystalk
bump...
To: PUGACHEV
I will dig through my photos tomorrow and see if I can find some of the interior.
To: Little Bill
I also believe that the Europeans, us mainly, hit the beach a long time ago, well before Columbus. The similarity between Clovis points and European points are to close to argue.Those that argue against Europeans entering North America in pre-historic (or even later ) times often claim that such ocean voyages were beyond the abilities of the ancients. It was also said that the Indians walked into North America from Beringia. When geologists showed that ice sheets covered the land during the period when Man first entered the Americas from Beringia, an "ice-free corridor" was suggested as a route. Again, geologists showed that such a corridor did exist, but during the wrong period. It is now thought that the Indians skirted the iced-over Pacific coast in boats... Kinda like how ancient Europeans were allegedly unable to have done along the Atlantic ice pack.
And yes, isn't it curious that while Solutrean points resemble Clovis technology, no similar stone tool tradition exists in eastern Siberia? Equally curious is the appearent migration of Clovis technology from the east coast westward, rather than from the northwest spreading southward.
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posted on
01/09/2002 11:24:44 PM PST
by
Redcloak
To: Redcloak
...while Solutrean points resemble Clovis technologyExcept for the base of the point, very close I would guess, from the photo that I found. I found a web site that proposed the something similar with a nice picture of the Ice conditions in Solutrean times.
If that picture is accurate, it would be logical to find the oldest Clovis finds in the South East.
To: crystalk
>Few if any mainstream observers of American antiquities have been willing to touch it.
A very nicely done article. And I sympathize with your frustration at the intellectually constipated inhibitants of academia.
I bought (another) book on the Celts the other day, written by another "Celtic expert" and it begins with the usual map showing they originated in Germany (WRONG!) and migrated outward from ther (WRONG!). Then, copying most other books on the Celts he says in the very first sentence "At the start of the first millennium BC...(WRONG! No trace of them until ~600BC, and then in Southern Russia, Turkey, etc.) These guys never read FR to learn about the latest Archeological finds!
Anyway, I like your post, but wonder at your concern about not being able to move the 220 lb rock in a canoe? That is only the weight of a large man. I don't see the problem.
To: Little Bill
Do a search on the 'Cactus Hill' and the 'Topper' site. They are both in the east and are pre-Clovis (Solutrean), 15-20,000 years ago.
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posted on
01/10/2002 7:07:47 PM PST
by
blam
To: Little Bill
Do a search on the 'Cactus Hill' and the 'Topper' site. They are both in the east and are pre-Clovis (Solutrean), 15-20,000 years ago.
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posted on
01/10/2002 7:08:10 PM PST
by
blam
To: Little Bill
Sorry for the double post. Another tidbit of info. Europeans and Africans have a 'sticky' sort of ear wax and the Asians have a 'flaky' ear wax. A survey of the US indicated that the Native Americans in the east have the 'sticky' variety and those in the west have the 'flaky' kind.
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posted on
01/10/2002 7:12:37 PM PST
by
blam
To: DensaMensa
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posted on
01/10/2002 7:17:33 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
the Native Americans in the east have the 'sticky' variety.That I have heard of, there is also a blood type difference if I remember correctly. If you ever come to NE, visit Mystery Hill in North Salem, NH. Pretty neat, especally since the place was used for a quarry when they were building Lawerence, Mass. There are several dolmen scattered around also.
To: blam
Another tidbit of info. Europeans and Africans have a 'sticky' sort of ear wax and the Asians have a 'flaky' ear wax. A survey of the US indicated that the Native Americans in the east have the 'sticky' variety and those in the west have the 'flaky' kind.wow. the things i learn here.
thanks for the chuckle blam...the first of the day for me (sorely needed).
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posted on
01/10/2002 7:34:54 PM PST
by
d4now
To: DensaMensa
"A large man" would lean and help himself and a canoe to balance, jump out and help push or bail in emergencies, and is not nearly as dense as the rock. I would hate to think how a 220-lb rock would be borne up if it hit the bottom of a canoe made of bark.
Still, maybe you might be right, if the stone-cookers of Manitoba had had aluminum canoes...
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posted on
01/10/2002 8:33:35 PM PST
by
crystalk
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