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A Word of Warning: Resist the Lure of Pornography
Chalcedon ^ | 1/9/02 | Gerald W. Tritle

Posted on 01/09/2002 7:29:19 AM PST by truthandlife

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To: a_witness
Yeah, one of talks about things he knows (remember I've served my time both in FF and smut), and one casts judgement from a position of ignorance.
361 posted on 01/10/2002 6:16:01 AM PST by discostu
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To: ColdSteelTalon
– sins which Jesus says will deprive one of eternal life. I agrree with all of your points regarding pornography. But a person who has accepted Christ as savior cannot lose their salvation. Once a person is saved they can only break fellowship with God by sinning. Salavation cannot be earned by works. If it could be then we would have no need for Christ

Very well stated....

The statement of "– sins which Jesus says will deprive one of eternal life...." was the only major flaw in the article.....

Even the Book of Hesitations does not have a list of sins which will deprive one of eternal life....

362 posted on 01/10/2002 6:30:08 AM PST by TRY ONE
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To: wjcsux
'Bout right, I was a little pup back then, but I knew people in that world at the time (guys you're brothers were probably arresting, most of whom are dead now) and got and have gotten a lot of stories. Everything is different now. The only landmarks of that era left are the Bandit and the Empress. The Bandit is still a biker bar but they have a strictly enforced no colors rule and the youngest bikers you'll see in there are probably in their mid-40s. The Empress is effectively run by the IRS, every member of the family has been busted for tax evasion, the IRS keeps one out to run the place and pay the tax bills, then that person screws up so the IRS sends them back to jail and gives a different one early parole (incidentally that family also ran The Living Room on the other end of Speedway, which is where I was a DJ, it's now a used car dealership).

The whole scene has changed. In your day the clientelle for strip clubs was outlaw bikers and construction workers. Now it's fratboys and corporate execs. Then they were all fronts for prostitution and drugs. Now the smart managers turn in girls they find out are doing that stuff (well, there's still a lot of white powder in the dressing room from what I hear, but it's for consumption not for sale). It's fun to run into old timers from your era, they talk about it as the good old days. It's gone through the same kind of transition Vegas has (been to Vegas since the junkbond kings took over? hard to imagine the place was ever mob run) gone through. Lost a lot of the mystery and aura along the way too, but in the end it's a change for the better.

363 posted on 01/10/2002 6:32:41 AM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
One of the guys I went to H.S. with was one of the owners of the Living Room in the early 70's. I went in there while on leave, and he was there. He was involved in various small businesses in Tucson between tours he did at the Big House in Florence.
364 posted on 01/10/2002 6:57:14 AM PST by wjcsux
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To: wjcsux
Dan something?
365 posted on 01/10/2002 7:02:37 AM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
Butch.
366 posted on 01/10/2002 7:18:02 AM PST by wjcsux
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OK, just trying to figure out if it was the same family that ran it in the end (same folks that have run the Empress since day 1). Different people. Still the best brake place in Tucson behind it though. And now the only male stripclub in town is across the street. My wife went to a bachelorette party there, she was not impressed, her big line about the place is "they wear knee pads". Who'd have ever thought males strippers would turn out to be wimpier than female strippers.
367 posted on 01/10/2002 7:28:26 AM PST by discostu
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