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To: TransOxus
The reason western Judo - Christian world has been successfull is the seperation of government and church. When ever the two get together there is hell to pay.

This does not mean the Judo/Christian values should not be a foundation of government. Jesus introduced the idea of sepeation. Major contribution. Isreal is a religious/socialistic state, they should listen to Jesus.

7 posted on 01/08/2002 8:28:02 PM PST by stubernx98
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To: stubernx98
Not true. Name one secular culture which has ever created anything progressive on its own. Communism and Marxism, etc. are really religions on their own despite the blowhard claiming secularism. Religion provides the soul of the country whether good or bad depends on the Alpha Male who draws first and last blood.

Further, I do not subscribe to the term Judeo-Christian. Judaism is a failed religion which Christianity took over and improved. The Jews on their own have been unable to defend and hold on to Israel as history has shown. The current state of Israel simply exists because it is the 51st U.S. state supported by a Christian nation. Christians freed Israel from the Islamic yoke in the last centuries with the Jews given custody to defend it. Take U.S. support away and they are toast. Interesting to see how Jews were grateful to come to America and changed their names from Goldfish to Goldwyn, etc. to hide their Jewishness. But now they are so uppity that they are taking anti-Christian steps in the U.S. Not being anti-Jew as the Holy Land should not fall back to those terrorist thugs but just pointing out the contradictions.And they wonder why they got the Shylock treatment in the past.

8 posted on 01/08/2002 8:46:02 PM PST by TransOxus
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