Alan Keyes Signs Deal with MSNBC ***PRESS RELEASE***

MSNBC | 1/7/02 | MSNBC

[Clinton's a liar]

FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, U.N. AMBASSADOR ALAN KEYES TO JOIN MSNBC

“Alan Keyes Is Making Sense” to Air Weeknights at 10PM, ET Beginning January 21st

SECAUCUS, NJ- January 7, 2002- Former Presidential Candidate and Reagan-era U.S. Ambassador at the United Nations, Alan Keyes has joined MSNBC as host of a new one-hour commentary show, “Alan Keyes Is Making Sense,” weeknights at 10PM, ET. Erik Sorenson, president and general manager, MSNBC, made the announcement today.

“We're excited that Alan is bringing his highly-regarded grasp of global issues and his larger-than-life personality to MSNBC," said Sorenson. "This network has distinguished itself as the cable news channel for smart young viewers interested in knowing about their world. Alan's deep knowledge, incredible capacity to frame debate, and provocative views will be a great addition to an already-terrific primetime lineup.”

“Alan Keyes Is Making Sense” is a live one-hour talk show providing in-depth analysis and commentary on the issues of the day from politics, economics to the various cultural hot buttons. The program will originate from Washington, D.C.

Keyes received his Ph.D in Government Affairs in 1979 from Harvard University. He served during the Reagan Administration in the U.S. Foreign Service and on the staff of the National Security Council before being appointed Ambassador to the United Nations Economic and Social Council in 1983. He was the Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs from 1985-87.

Alan Keyes is also a two-time Republican presidential candidate and two-time Republican Senate nominee from the state of Maryland. His greatest public exposure came most recently through his dynamic and much extolled performances in the 2000 Republican Presidential Debates.

For the past 10 years, Keyes has reached a nationwide audience each day through his nationally syndicated radio program, “The Alan Keyes Show: America’s Wake-Up Call.” He is the author of two critically acclaimed books, Masters of the Dream: The Strength and Betrayal of Black America and Our Character, Our Future: Reclaiming America’s Moral Destiny, with a third to be released soon. Keyes and his wife of 19 years, Jocelyn, reside in Maryland with their three children: Francis, Maya and Andrew.

Keyes joins MSNBC’s weeknight line-up, which also includes:

 “The Abrams Report” at 6PM, ET: The latest headlines and investigation on the American strike against terrorism.
 “Hardball with Chris Matthews” at 7PM, ET: A provocative look at the politicians and newsmakers from the business, entertainment and media arenas that have helped shape the country’s political and social landscape.
 Emmy Award-winning “The News with Brian Williams” at 8PM, ET: The only comprehensive live hour-long nightly newscast in primetime. Using the worldwide resources of NBC News, Williams provides viewers with in-depth coverage of the day’s top news stories; interviews with the world’s newsmakers; and a first-hand look at tomorrow’s headlines from around the world.
 “A Region in Conflict with Ashleigh Banfield” at 9PM, ET: Host Ashleigh Banfield takes viewers inside various regions in conflict for a close-up look at the people and their struggle for survival, the politics, and the struggle for power.
“America at War with Lester Holt” at 11PM, ET: The only live news-hour which recaps the days headlines and the most recent developments in the war on terrorism.

[EternalVigilance]

I think that our Prez had a slip of the lip as he often does and didn't mean that Jesus is not God.

I agree with you.

[Southern Federalist]

It might also be pointed out that Jesus Christ is not only true God but also true man, and that as man on this earth he preached and taught, and some of what he taught is extremely important to politics - like forgiveness, like doing to others what you would have them do to you, like giving Caesar what is Caesar's and God what is God's.

If I wanted to pick nits with Dr. Keyes as he picked them with the President, I might accuse him of being a Docetist - the sect that taught that Christ was not really human but only God. But I wouldn't do that, because it would be ridiculous and if I did it, I could legitimately be called a Keyes Basher. But if making that accusation against Dr. Keyes would make me a Keyes Basher, does his theologically ill-informed condescension to the President make him a Bush Basher?

Keyes knows a lot and many of his principles are sound. If he can control his egotism instead of putting it on continual display, I will welcome his television show. But he does have an attitude problem, and if it isn't kept in check he could end up by doing the things he believes in a lot of harm.

[Keyes For President]

Howlin became so excited over giving something to the winner of the CLOSET KEYESTER Award that she sent me a picture of her familys' most treasured gifts from the old country by mistake.

ROFLMAO!

[EternalVigilance]

But he does have an attitude problem, and if it isn't kept in check he could end up by doing the things he believes in a lot of harm.

BUMP!

Of course, that applies equally to all of us. ;-)

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

You need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills, sister.

Dan clearly slimed Keyesters as cultists. Why can't you understand simple English?

There it is again. I guess I know your M.O. Since Dan didn't use the word "cult" and has explained that was not his intent, it seems to me my reading comprehension is just fine. (You seem to like slapping people around as much as the next guy, all in the name of Christ. That's your business, of course, but is that cool, while you're admonishing others?)

[Rowdee]

ICHBINGLUCKICH: ..."I think that our Prez had a slip of the lip as he often does and didn't mean that Jesus is not God"....

ETERNALVIGILANCE: ..."I agree with you"...

MY QUESTION: How can you even suggest this? We have been told time and time again that he says what he means and means what he says. Now you two are trying to say that he doesn't really mean what he actually said but that what he actually says means something different than what he actually meant to say.

Right? Well, I'm going to watch this argument--gonna go make the popcorn. Be back shortly. Can't wait for the reasons why Jesus Christ really is a philosopher, rather than TRUTH itself.

When he said that during the debates, I slumped back on the sofa thinking, OMG, he's given the Jesus Seminar freaks ammo!

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

But he does have an attitude problem, and if it isn't kept in check he could end up by doing the things he believes in a lot of harm.

Well stated. And absolutely correct.

[Keyes For President]

Dan did not use the word and has assured you of his intent (why you're not willing to accept it escapes me) -

LOL!
;-)

KFP (though fearing a hyperdetailed, almost pecksniffian response ["Well no, Dan didn't say the word 'cult'..."], rather than candid acknowledgment of facts obvious to others)

[ichbingluckich]

I agree with everything you have written. I have not seen Alan Keye's flaws yet. Perhaps they will become evident in his program. All I know is that every time I have seen him speak, I was saying, "Yeah,way to go!!" I like him a lot.

[EternalVigilance]

I guess I know your M.O.

My M.O. is to defend my friends from unjust and untrue accusations.

Since Dan didn't use the word "cult"...

Oh, but he did.

...and has explained that was not his intent.

His intent is very clear...it's right there on the thread for all to see.

...it seems to me my reading comprehension is just fine.

What's the old saying? 'None are so blind as those who will not see'??

(You seem to like slapping people around as much as the next guy, all in the name of Christ. That's your business, of course, but is that cool, while you're admonishing others?)

You are pretty new to this fight. If I seem harsh, I apologize. But I have put up with this and alot more for a long, long time...and I refuse to let this type of thing just pass.

Regards...EV

[EternalVigilance]

I didn't say I agree with that statement (I was sitting mere feet away when he said it, btw). I just think it's wrong to read too much into it.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

With all due respect, your M.O. is clearly to condescend while speaking with someone you take issue with. You did it with me twice. That said, I accept your apology for sounding harsh.

What's the old saying? 'None are so blind as those who will not see'??

I believe that's it, EV. If you're aiming that at me (and I believe you are), just be careful the boomerang doesn't come back around and slap you in the noggin. Heads up, buddy.

[Rowdee]

Is this food fight over the use/non use of the actual word 'cult' sorta like the same as saying something about college roommates vs some other kinds of college kids in generalities--even though we 'all' knew the whos that were in those generalities?

This may provide an answer to some of the problems experienced around FR.

[ichbingluckich]

Rowdee!, Ay carumba! You posted: "ICHBINGLUCKICH: ..."I think that our Prez had a slip of the lip as he often does and didn't mean that Jesus is not God".... ETERNALVIGILANCE: ..."I agree with you"... MY QUESTION: How can you even suggest this? We have been told time and time again that he says what he means and means what he says. Now you two are trying to say that he doesn't really mean what he actually said but that what he actually says means something different than what he actually meant to say. Right? Well, I'm going to watch this argument--gonna go make the popcorn. Be back shortly. Can't wait for the reasons why Jesus Christ really is a philosopher, rather than TRUTH itself. When he said that during the debates, I slumped back on the sofa thinking, OMG, he's given the Jesus Seminar freaks ammo!" What he means is what he says is to say that he is honest ulike our previous Prez. He does not, however, as everyone knows, the gift of gab. I wish that he was the Great Communicator, but I'll take him over Algor any day. I would like some popcorn too please!!! And as far as "wait[ing] for the reasons why Jesus Christ really is a philosopher, rather than TRUTH itself.", I disagreed with the philospher thing. I always slump a lot when I hear Bush speak....

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Sort of like "secret societies" isn't a reference to George W. Bush - is that what you're saying, KFP? That Dan would use that same parsing of words to backpedal? Is that something he would do?

What I thought Dan meant was that some people (a lot of people, actually) seem to have a glassy-eyed inability to see flaws in Alan Keyes. Now - you may disagree with his premise, but that's not a cult in the strict, religious sense of the word, is it? (Maybe I'm wrong.) His reference to "God", I thought, was just hyperbole to illustrate his point. I don't think he meant it literally, and if he says he didn't mean "cult", I see no reason to doubt him. OK?

[EternalVigilance]

Great jumping catfish, Gelato, how is it that you don't know me? Am I pro-abortion, you ask? Check out The Bible and the Bull's-Eye on the Baby. I'm every bit as conservative as Keyes, if not more.

I really don't know how you're missing my obvious, bite-you-on-the-nose point, but here it is ONE MORE TIME: Keyes acts in a manner that shows him to be a full-of-himself, implacable, unpleasable purist who CANNOT form coalitions because ANYONE who is not in 101% agreement with him MUST be criticized at GREAT LENGTH and with FIERCE PASSION. (His stupid, stupid, stupid criticism of Bush's confession of faith — which you recalled — is a perfect example.) The effect he has on those most devoted to him (observable in this thread, as in all Keyes threads) is that they become Keyes Kultists. NOBODY is pure enough for them, NO compromise is really acceptable, NOTHING that varies from their Prophet's dicta can be acceptable. And variances are NEVER honest differences of opinion -- they are heresies! (Witness Keyes and Krew's total botching and almost slanderous misrepresentation of Bush on the "stem cell research" issue, to which I devoted a lengthy essay [where were you??].)

And so, proving my point, if any Keyester comments on this posting, it will be ponderous and humorless and painfully detailed (I've touched The Lord's Anointed, after all). No Keyester can say, "You know, you have a point. The guy has great points, but ruins his own case by being way too full of himself and Unable To Play Well With Others" -- any more than a Christian can say that Christ takes Himself too seriously. The difference being, of course, that Christ really is God.

Dan

556 posted on 1/9/02 11:51 AM Central by BibChr

There it is...one last time. Added to 'the word' itself is the heavy inference throughout the rest of the post that anyone foolish enough to agree with Keyes is a cultist.

[EternalVigilance]

I was under the mistaken impression that we were discussing this issue in 'real time'...but obviously not.

My apologies for the digression with our fellow FReeper...I really wanted to discuss it with you, not her.

I have other obligations that necessitate my departure now, but any response you see fit to give will have to wait for the morrow.

EV

[Keyes For President]

Sort of like "secret societies" isn't a reference to George W. Bush - is that what you're saying, KFP? That Dan would use that same parsing of words to backpedal? Is that something he would do?

Exactly! Actually I think it's funny! You wouldn't cut me any slack and wouldn't accept my assurance of my intent.
(BTW, I acknowledged that it was a reference to Bush)

Now don't get offended--I'm not. I sincerely got a chuckle out of this. that's why I posted the winking smily face.

[Keyes For President]

Is this food fight over the use/non use of the actual word 'cult' sorta like the same as saying something about college roommates vs some other kinds of college kids in generalities--even though we 'all' knew the whos that were in those generalities? This may provide an answer to some of the problems experienced around FR.

On the nose!

:-D

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

You wouldn't cut me any slack and wouldn't accept my assurance of my intent.

But you admitted ("secret societies" is pretty much a dead giveaway, so there was no point in protesting) you were insincere in your initial ("Wha...? Bush?? Who said Bush?") denial.

There are a couple of interpretations of the word "cult". One is nothing to be terribly offended about - just a descriptive term but not intended in the true religious sense (I don't believe Dan thinks Christians will really leave Christ to follow Alan Keyes, to illustrate). The other is the true, religious sense. I can believe Dan meant the former. See the difference? You were talking about Bush, but you played innocent about it, then admitted it. Dan, I think, was (deliberately) misinterpreted.

And for the record, I'm not mad either!