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15 year old pilot left note in plane supporting Bin Laden
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Posted on 01/06/2002 12:23:36 PM PST by newsperson999

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They said the kid was very familiar with all the aspects of the flight school and swapped chores for flying time.

I'm wondering how many Talibans are training at that flight school and if the kid was buddies with any of them.

The intercept planes did not reach there in time because from take-off to the hit building is a very SHORT distance. No time for them to get air-born and to the scene.

This responsibility is going to have to be taken by the flight schools. They are going to have to be more alert. Hard to say how they can identify a pilot that is going to do something like this, though.

161 posted on 01/06/2002 2:51:23 PM PST by LADY J
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To: verboten
An examination of government after WWI and II shows that we we lost considerable freedom as a result of those wars.

When making such statements, it helps the reader, if you state specific examples. Could you do so, citing which losses came after WWI, and which after WWII. Thanks, in advance.

162 posted on 01/06/2002 2:51:24 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: newsperson999
Did you read what CNN posted? He flew into MacDill AFB and buzzed the runway. MacDill the headquarters of the US Central Command. Essentially, during a war, he flew a plane into the heart of our command center.

Of Course they did already know he was a 15 year old American student pilot but it's still pretty scary.

163 posted on 01/06/2002 2:56:10 PM PST by tbeatty
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To: patriciaruth
Read this from AirDisaster.Com Dicussion Forums:

AirDisaster.com Discussion

Alright, just getting the info on this big event, and I've got a few issues Id like to add in... since I fly a C172 nearly everyday I think I've got a little bit of experience.

First off, If im correct he flew 20 miles to this area? Now, I'm assuming giving the circumstances, that he flew direct from the airport.
Now let's assume he flew for an hour, which he obviously didnt... and lets remind everyone who doesnt know, when someone parks a C172, the tanks are to be filled to avoid Condensation, and the after effect Vapour Lock

Now any decent school/club does this. So lets assume he had standard tanks, and had 38Gal on board, 34 of which were useable, but not that, that matters, so he flew for one hour we'll say, and burned 8 Gallons of gas, leaving him 26 Gallons of AVGAS, which as mentioned before, isnt the best at putting out fires... there should of been a fireball, and resulting fire, an absolute near impossibility, in a nearly fully loaded Cessna when the wings come off....

Now as for the whole TOP GUN idea? Perhaps this guy was a really crappy pilot... because for any of us who have flown them, even in the worst turbulence, they're not that hard to handle... At least well enough to avoid large buildings, even though there are the obvious major downdrafts, and turbulence associated with large buildings.

I don't know if this pilot meant to say "near impossibility" seems like he's driving at the fact that there SHOULD have been a fire?

164 posted on 01/06/2002 2:57:06 PM PST by madfly
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To: marajade;dittomom
Stop shilling for McCain. If not me, someone will be here to embarrass you. You are everything Dittomom is not - a liberal McCain butt kisser.
165 posted on 01/06/2002 2:57:47 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
I don't like McCain but he is a Republican and so is our other US Senator. Can VA say the same?
166 posted on 01/06/2002 2:59:03 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
I don't like McCain but he is a Republican and so is our other US Senator. Can VA say the same?

Yep. And both voted for our President's tax cut, unlike yours.

167 posted on 01/06/2002 3:01:21 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Phoenix is still relatively conservative.
168 posted on 01/06/2002 3:05:05 PM PST by tgiles
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To: VA Advogado
Liar. VA has a Dem US Senator.
169 posted on 01/06/2002 3:06:31 PM PST by marajade
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To: LarryLied; Hugh Akston
Hugh found the thread LL.

Anti-War Demonstrators, War Veterans Square Off In Peaceful Gathering

170 posted on 01/06/2002 3:07:00 PM PST by Neets
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To: Austim
no one here is willing to blame his conservative upbringing.

Walker had a father who was a gay lawyer, and a mother who was a Buddists New Ager. That means mega screwed up liberals raised that kid!
Now, if you could give us some background on the kid from Florida, seeing how you seem to know it all.....How were his parents conservatives? What have you learned about them?

171 posted on 01/06/2002 3:07:15 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: VA Advogado
And the reason McCain voted against it was because he felt it wasn't BIG enough.
172 posted on 01/06/2002 3:07:23 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
And the reason McCain voted against it was because he felt it wasn't BIG enough.

Do you have a direct IV line or does McCain's office have to deliver the koolaid? If you really believe that then I know why AZ went for Clinton in 1996.

173 posted on 01/06/2002 3:09:06 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Listen I stated I didn't like McCain. But the Dem party is almost non existent in AZ and couldn't find anyone but a real estate agent with no electoral experience to run against him.
174 posted on 01/06/2002 3:10:46 PM PST by marajade
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To: LADY J
I'm wondering how many Talibans are training at that flight school and if the kid was buddies with any of them.

IMHO this is the significance of this solo kamikaze action: it may mark the start of unilateral acts of terrorism by OBL supporters and other assorted Islemmings.

If even a very tiny % of the Islemmings in the USA wake up on a given day and decide "today is a good day to kill a lot of infidels and collect my 72 virgins", then we are in for a rough time.

Nutty solo actors will not belong to any trackable group, and will be virtually impossible to detect or stop short of their target area.

Imagine instead of a small plane, a 15,000 gallon gasoline tanker truck hijacked and driven into the lobby of the B of A building at 60MPH at ten AM on any monday.

175 posted on 01/06/2002 3:11:05 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: VA Advogado
Would you rather I vote for a dem instead? You know like VA.
176 posted on 01/06/2002 3:11:44 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade;dittomom
And the reason McCain voted against it was because he felt it wasn't BIG enough.

I told you to stop before you embarrased yourself. He wanted to keep sticking the 'rich'. McCain Votes No

"Mr. President, I rise to oppose the Conference Report on the Reconciliation bill. I do so after having expressed hope that the progress we made in the Senate bill to scale back the benefits going to the top rate taxpayers to make room for more tax relief to lower income Americans would prevail in the final tax bill."

177 posted on 01/06/2002 3:12:34 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: LarryLied
FOXNews just reported the kid took off, and a minute later he was flying over McDill AFB restricted airspace.

This little idiot has done a good thing... he has exposed a real weakness in "homeland" security.

178 posted on 01/06/2002 3:12:47 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: VA Advogado
So what about McCain. I don't like him but he is a registered Republican. Stop before you embarras yourself any further since I've already proven you are a liar.
179 posted on 01/06/2002 3:14:03 PM PST by marajade
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To: tbeatty
Your# 163).......Cuba!
180 posted on 01/06/2002 3:14:07 PM PST by maestro
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