Bush insists he'll block any effort to increase taxes

Washington Times ^ | 1/06/02 | Joseph Curl

[kattracks]

ONTARIO, Calif.

[doug from upland]

Thanks for the heads up. Although I was fairly close, at the time I really didn't know he got that emotional.

[Howlin]

I agree 100 percent. The phrase "we never knew what hit us" comes to mind. This was all BEFORE we realized the rules of the game had not only changed, but had been totally discarded!

[harpo11]

"Not over my dead body will they raise your taxes"


Now that's what I call manly!

"Mr. Bush said to thunderous cheers at a town-hall meeting in this city with a large Hispanic population."

[Howlin]

BTW, your post flies in the face of all the naysayers on FR who continue to rant that "you just don't see good posting like in the good old days." I enjoyed reading it. Thanks for taking the time to post it.

[harpo11]

***"He was a gentlman and was stunned that Clinton was able to lie with such abandon and get away with it."***

13 posted on 1/6/02 12:17 AM Pacific by Howlin

Howlin, so very true, but so many other good gentlemen were willing to give Clinton a pass which has been so disheartening and
harmful to our country and our future.

[Deep_6]

Do you realize you agreed with me twice in one day?
[holy crap]       </blush>

I'd like to tell you [in case you forgot?] that I do have
a great habit of working against the grain of many
a said "conservative" on "FR". I'm a firm believer
in freedom [albeit not libertarian style] and often
appear to lean to the left on social issues. Fiscally
however, I'm far to the right.

So with all that said.....

I thank you for your kind words regarding my posts
to this thread.

 

[marajade]

Budget bills are originated in the house which is in a Rep majority.

[cactmh]

Until you manage to make it to the local city commission, please don't act like you know anything about politics. Just because his old man couldn't follow through doesn't mean he can't. Plus, do you know where appropriations come from? Hint: It's the legislative body where Republicans DO have control.

[Howlin]

and often appear to lean to the left on social issues. Fiscally however, I'm far to the right.

Make that THREE times! ROFLMAO. I'm one of the "immoral" conservatives, remember????

[Deep_6]

didja' take notice of the last few posts?

Whoooie.... I guess I hit another sore spot
with a couple of those Re-pseudo-cans. [snicker]

I luv FR!

[Howlin]

It is/was disheartening. And it makes my blood pressure boil. We spend an inordinate amount of time around here talking back to the TV -- all 3 of them!

[horsewhispersc]

Bush insists he'll block any effort to increase taxes

Wow.......He shakes my nerves and Rattles my brain when he speaks!......Goodness Gracious, Great Balls of Fire! lol

[Deep_6]

What - - do you people work in teams?

To pass anything, you need a majority. We didn't
have it in GB 1's days and we don't have it now.

And if you think that only your brand of conservatism is
the absolute correct brand, then you had best get a grip.
There are many many other people in this fine Nation that
have hope, plans and ideals that differ from yours. Learn to
compromise and you'll gain a ton more.

Or...... you can go have lunch with Pat Buchanan. [be
prepared to use your card]

[marajade]

I disagree. Even the Dem controlled senate held to the spending limits set by Pres. Bush.

[Twodees]

No, you're wrong. It's the real conseratives who mocked Wobbly. It's the so-called "conservatives" who are making excuses for him now. GHW wasn't a conservative president. He deserves honest scrutiny, and conservatives deserve better than having his faults glossed over in the interest of rewriting GOP history. That kind of nonsense has been a GOP hallmark for 130 years.

[Twodees]

[To pass anything, you need a majority]

Yeah, sure. Tell that to Ronald Reagan. Reagan had a democrat majority in the House to contend with on his tax measures. It takes courage and the ability to articulate ideas to use the media access a President has for reaching the citizenry. Wobbly didn't have either. He was an ineffectual communicator of conservative ideals because he isn't a conservative. He was also a clumsy manipulator, and the people he needed to vote for him were the intelligent conservatives who could see through his duplicity. The way he sold the war he ultimately fumbled turned millions of voters against him. His insistence on waxing rhapsodic about his "new world order" and his absolute treachery in issuing an "assault weapon" ban by EO sealed his fate with conservatives.

This crap of rewriting recent history is insulting, and neocon pundits and strategists should stop it. Most conservative voters active today remember Wobbly's treachery all too clearly and the nonsensical polls showing his high approval ratings after fumbling the conclusion of the war must have been polls of fickle democrats. Conservatives cursed Wobbly for three years before we decided to let him twist in the wind at reelection time.

Anyone who actually likes W should be drawing distinctions between him and his father. Wobbly doesn't have any really admirable traits, so any that W has probably came from his mother's side of the family.

[Wphile]

It is also important to note that W was not an integral part of the political campaign - compared to 1988. I think had he been involved, Bush I may have fared better. GW is an astute politician.

Don't forget the media culpability in electing Bill Clinton either. Remember Time mag calling him a wimp?

GW remembers what happened to his Dad and did not try to defend him when asked about the pledge and the breaking of it. All he said was "well, Dad said it and broke it - it's on the record."