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1 posted on 01/05/2002 6:38:49 PM PST by Wiley Sr
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To: Wiley Sr
Posted HERE Friday.
2 posted on 01/05/2002 6:43:20 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Wiley Sr
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;

(Isaiah 5:20a NKJV)


3 posted on 01/05/2002 6:49:02 PM PST by Delta-Boudreaux
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To: Wiley Sr
Blind loyalty to Bush is causing the Religious Right to lose both its credibility and its clout.

Life is full of compromises. Besides, the President has to be the President of a nation, not just of a ruling coalition. Get over it.
4 posted on 01/05/2002 6:49:15 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: Wiley Sr
Today, the president can embrace gay rights, big government spending, and even pagan religion without consternation or criticism. He can ignore the U.S. Constitution and trample the bedrock principles of self-government without even so much as a whimper. He can support embryonic stem cell research, promote unconstitutional trade deals, and call for the creation of a "hemispheric family" and "international order" with Canada and Mexico without the slightest opposition. He can ignore abortion (even partial birth abortion) and even participate in the cover-up of Clinton and Reno's criminal conduct without a peep of protest. As long as he "talks the talk," he remains the darling of the Religious Right.

One at a time:

- The President has not embraced gay rights, he tolerates competent gays in his Administration. Should he castrate them instead?

- Military tribunals, presumably the subject of Mr. Baldwin's "trample the Constitution" complaint, have precedent and only apply to non-citizens. GMAFB.

- Although you can argue that he should not have allowed any ESCR, he limited it to existing SCs, and prohibited it on new ones. Not ideal, but surely not full-fledged "support." It will not be long until adult stem cells are shown to be as effective or moreso than ESCs anyway.

- NAFTA and the expansion of international trade should have the support of religious people. Free trade between two nations that are market economies makes each nation better off (bracing for rants to the contrary).

- Just what would you have Mr. Bush DO about abortion and PBA? The House and Senate need to pass the legislation again, which Daschle will not permit. The SC will probably throw it out if it does pass. The only answer is new Supremes, which has to wait until someone retires.

- The refusal to let anything from the previous administration get into the front-page headlines is clearly a conscious decision by the administration. It's obvious that W thinks he can do more for the country without the distractions, while many of us wish to see justice done. I'm not thrilled, but I understand his logic.

What Baldwin has fallen into is the acceptance of the WaPo's premise that W is the titular head of the Religious Right (RR). The only reason the WaPo did this is because they have been tipped off to the Democratic strategy of trying to equate the RR with the Taliban, and published this article to set the stage. His column helps advance the Dems' claim that the RR is out of touch.

Lucky for us, W is smarter than Chuck Baldwin. W's strategy of highlighting the poor treatment of women in Afghanistan and his tolerance of a "pagan" religion (I assume Chuckie is referring to Islam) make him, his administration, and (hopefully) his party, immune to the "Talibanism" charge.

7 posted on 01/05/2002 7:04:33 PM PST by litany_of_lies
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Christians were more interested in a politician's walk than in his talk. No more.

This is not exclusive to Christians. It has pervaded all of society. Once a particular offense has been used against a politician, the next offense won't be treated harshly at all. It used to be a politician couldn't have used drugs. Now they could have "tried" to and would "try" to again, and it's ok. They couldn't have been caught with another woman (Gary Hart), but now it's personal, private business so it doesn't matter. They couldn't say or write anything about a woman (Clarance Thomas, Bob Packwood) but now you can sexually harass them and have sex with interns.

Or, maybe it's just the old Democrat-GOP double standard again.

8 posted on 01/05/2002 7:06:41 PM PST by monkeyshine
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It could even be argued that modern Christians put more trust in their politicians than they do their preachers.

Actually, many are more trusting of their politicians and their preachers then they are of God. Their love of church doctrine is more important than their love of God. It's sad.

10 posted on 01/05/2002 7:22:12 PM PST by AlGone2001
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Bla bla bla bla bla...

Not one his better pieces.
11 posted on 01/05/2002 7:30:01 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Wiley Sr
Like the old prophets who had sold their souls to the corrupt kings of Israel, conservative Christians today have sold their souls to the gods and generals of the Republican Party.

Perhaps they've sold their souls to unity if the USA.

12 posted on 01/05/2002 7:37:30 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: Wiley Sr
A barf alert would have been appropriate here, but if you wrote it I suspect it would be hard to recognize it.

JWinNC

13 posted on 01/05/2002 7:48:56 PM PST by JWinNC
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To: Wiley Sr
Sorry, you didn't write it. My poor old eyes reversed your name with Mr. Baldwin. My apologies.

A barf alert would still have been good however. ;)

JWinNC

14 posted on 01/05/2002 7:50:41 PM PST by JWinNC
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To: Wiley Sr
In other words, it does not make any difference what Bush does; he gives them the talk they want to hear.

This sounds like he really meant to say Clinton instead. Was he complaining then?

16 posted on 01/05/2002 9:38:48 PM PST by soundsolutions
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To: Wiley Sr
What happened to the Barf alert on this one??????
17 posted on 01/05/2002 11:19:34 PM PST by Kath
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To: Wiley Sr
While I admit to feeling a comfort that Bush is a professed Christian, I judge him by his actions. Like the Bible says, "Ye shall know them by their fruits."
18 posted on 01/05/2002 11:19:37 PM PST by brat
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To: Wiley Sr
What? No link? There ought to be a rule: No link, no post. How hard was it to not paste in the link for others? Try to be more considerate in the future.
19 posted on 01/05/2002 11:22:32 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Wiley Sr
"Blind loyalty to Bush is causing the Religious Right to lose both its credibility and its clout."

You lost me there...

20 posted on 01/05/2002 11:26:39 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Wiley Sr
Nice picture, Wiley Sr!


Dr. Wiley Drake

21 posted on 01/05/2002 11:48:01 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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