[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

You presume much, yet know very little

Again an accurate summary of your knowledge of Catholicism and the Bible. Too bad you know not Sacred Scripture. Perhaps the Holy Spirit will be able to turn your heart back to the Church that you have rejected.

Repetitve prayer

Matthew 6:7 "And when you are praying, speak not much, as the heathens. For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard." Be sure you read Matthew 6:1-6, for it places this in the proper context.

Matthew 26:44 "And leaving them, he went again: and he prayed the third time, saying the selfsame word."

The Apocalypse 4:8 "And the four living creatures had each of them six wings; and round about and within they are full of eyes. And they rested not day and night, saying: Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, who was, and who is, and who is to come."

1 Thessalonians 5:17 "Pray without ceasing."

Confession

John 20:22,23 "When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."

2 Corinthians 5:18 "But all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Christ; and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation."

James 5:16 "Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much."

Matthew 18:17-18 "And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican. Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven."

Tobias 12:9 "For alms delivereth from death, and the same is that which purgeth away sins, and maketh to find mercy and life everlasting."

Hail Mary

Luke 1:28 "And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women."
Luke 1:42 "And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb."

[Dynamo]

Very good Smedley. Now where does scripture tell men to repeat this Hail Mary for their own salvation? Or does it?

[rwfromkansas]

Your post is so funny I can't contain my enjoyment with your idiocy.

[rwfromkansas]

BTW, nice try putting in Tobias, but I don't read books that are not part of the Spirit-filled Canon.

[Notwithstanding]

Stop trying to use our secret Catholics-only Bible verses to instruct a protestant in the ways of Christ. ;^}

[Cleburne]

And this proves that prayer to Mary (or any other saints) is effective how? Or even that one is to proffess an admiration for Mary (supposing we decide to not call it prayer)-she is now dead, whereas in the two verses you cited she was living and present before the speaker. And as far repetive prayer, I would note two things: first, Jesus did not apparently say the same words and second, he was addressing the Father, not anyone else.

[a contender]

Hail Mary Luke 1:28 "And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women."

blessed just "among women"?

Jael was blessed "ABOVE WOMEN"!!

Why don't you pray to her. She's above Mary according to God, and God blessed her above women for driving a tent stake through Sisera's head. (Judges 5:24)

Mary only gave one commandment, John 2:5 "His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it." Why don't you obey this?