Posted on 01/04/2002 10:01:12 PM PST by Vigilant1
FREE REPUBLIC ADMITS IT IS PRO-WAR AND CENSORS ALL POSTS NOT IN ACCORD WITH US GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA
NOW MAKING THE ROUNDS ON THE NET. Cited under "fair use" for educational purposes.
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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 02:50:39 -0800
From: "Jim Robinson"
Organization: Free Republic
To: "Larry McDonald"
Subject: Re: What Are You Scared Of?
Those who are coming in here to post a bunch of propaganda to smear Bush or otherwise harm the war effort are going to be deleted.
I guess you missed my posts where I said that I am 100% behind our President and the war. I don't care if it's Ron Paul, Larry McDonald, or the head of the John Birch Society himself. I do not want it on FR. And I do not want a bunch of 40 year old conspiracy crap. Not interested.
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There you have it. Free Republic is not an objective reporter of the facts but a blatent supporter of the Bush administrations' war for oil, and by Jim Robinson's own admission.
In another post, Jim states...
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Jim Robinson (Free Republic)
by JIM ROBINSON in This thread
Lots of grumbling lately about deleted posts. Well, my friends, the simple truth is the game has changed. We are now at war.
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Of course, Jim Robinson has it wrong. We're not at war. Only Congress can state otherwise and there has been no formal declaration of war by anyone. Bush hasn't gone to Congress to ask for such a declaration because that would restore Congress to its role in the balance of powers doctrine on which the nation was founded. Bush has no intention of allowing Congress to second-guess him, and indeed Bush has flat out declared that he will not bother informing Congress of intelligence operations from this point forward as is required by law.
Yes, we have been attacked, but it's not really known by whom. Even the FBI admits the IDs on which they based their accusations were faked using the stolen identities of middle eastern Arabs, some of whom have since turned up alive. From this it should be obvious that we cannot really know who was on those planes, only who we are supposed to blame.
But Jim Robinson isn't interested in these facts. He's spiked threads pointing out that the FBI admitted the IDs used by the hijackers were phony. Jim Robinson has spiked threads about how some of the accused hijackers have turned up alive. Jim Robinson has spiked many of the threads dealing with the Israeli spy scandal and the fact that the US has classified evidence linking some of the arrested Israeli spies with the events of 9/11. Jim Robinson has spiked threads suggestng that Bush has exceeed his constitutional authority. Jim Robinson will tolerate no doubts about the righteousness of Bush's war for oil.
But more than that, Jim Robinson displays an arrogant assumption that the presence of a war justifies anything. He argues that we should get behind the government because (he claims) there is a war. But translate that to Germany of 1939. Was it the right thing for the German people to unquestioningly back Hitler because there was a war on? Or would the German people (and the world) have been better served taking a pause and a closer look at just what the government was doing? And if Germany should have examined their government's claims a lot closer, then how can we not do the same now?
Free Republic has shown its true colors. Jim is "not interested" in facts, only in selling Bush's wars. Free Republic isn't about news any more, only about propaganda.
This is untrue. Congress has the power to declare war, but that does not mean that we can be at war ONLY if Congress declares war.
At the time the Constitution was written, international law held that a state of war could exist if: 1) one's country was attacked; 2) one's country attacked another.
Only a country waging an aggressive war was expected to issue a declaration of war. This remained true until recent decades.
Waging aggressive war is NOW illegal (which it was not in 1789).
Thus, Congress has not declared war in recent decades, and it WILL NOT declare war--but we are at war nevertheless, because we have been attacked.
"We can't force FR to become politically correct. How dare these people try to unite behind the president of ALL the people. Free Republic has become too powerful and people in high places read it therefore it must be discredited or we lose any pathetic chance we might have to regain power, etc., etc., etc., blah, blah, blah, blah, drivel, whine drool......"
GOD BLESS YOU JIM AND GOD BLESS FREE REPUBLIC!
Yeah, maybe it's the same one. Who knows? I can't keep up with them anymore. It appears to me that the bigger you get the more enemies you have snipping at your heels.
If Matt, er... ahh.... Michael is unhappy, he can create his own forum and see what it's like to be a ring leader with dancing monkeys running amok! We'll see how long his site lasts, LOL!
Sounds like a tired old argument to me. Couldn't you come up with anything more original?
Free Republic isn't about news any more, only about propaganda.
How would you know? You haven't been around these parts long enough to understand anything about this website.
You are free to mosey on down the road.
Same here.
While I support the military action against the taliban government (ex) and Usama / Al-quaida, I have been fairly critical of the GW Bush administration on the issue of citizen's rights, and the constitution.
I have yet to see a single posting of mine deleted.
That includes postings criticizing John Ashcroft, US Attorney General, and his alleged pro-gun rights stance.
I believe any deleted postings had more to do with unacceptable language, (racial slurs or innuendos) and just plain trashy, foul language than their political content.
Free Republic and thus, Mr. Robinson have to consider the possibility of Libel suits, defamation, slander, etc..
When Freepers fail to act responsibly, Jim Robinson must act to protect his site, not only for himself, but for the continued use of all of us.
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