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Engineers Only.. Refining the Drug War
Jhoffa_X

Posted on 01/04/2002 11:46:07 AM PST by Jhoffa_

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To: clamper1797
Hey Mr. 78 We are all about suggestions..
81 posted on 01/04/2002 12:56:05 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: T. Rustin Noone
Then you can retrieve your stash by going onto your roof with a bent coat hanger. Its a lot cleaner and will fool the narcs just as much!

Or use a little more air and send it to your buddy's house on the next block.....

82 posted on 01/04/2002 12:56:20 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Jhoffa_
I appreciate you wanting to put an end to abusive policing, but don't really think mass property destruction is the answer.
83 posted on 01/04/2002 12:56:53 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: Jhoffa_
How about going to the sewer pipes drainout ... I believe every house has one ... and putting in a screen to catch whatever ... I wouldn't want to be the one to examine the contents but it gives new meaning to the term good $h!t
84 posted on 01/04/2002 12:57:30 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Jhoffa_
BTW this IS a fun thread ...
85 posted on 01/04/2002 12:58:28 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Jhoffa_
Hey Mr. 78 We are all about suggestions..

I suggest that it is a bad idea to flush a moose down the toilet. Or even a moderately-sized hunk of cheese.

86 posted on 01/04/2002 12:58:58 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

How so? Multidwelling stuff.. (apartments and what not) would be the easiest of all..

the cops show up.. go to the basement.. turn off your $1.24 3" valve.. then they come up and knock politely on your door..

You can flush anything you wish.. but if we have a valve in there someplace we will catch you.. WITHOUT killing you and your children...

87 posted on 01/04/2002 12:59:55 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: been_lurking
There's a simpler solution: just require every "citizen" to install a Twyford V.I.P.! This brilliant toilet already has built-in sensors to monitor your output stream for possible medical problems and automatically send email to your doctor, pharamcist, or supermarket. ("Send over more beans!") I'm sure it'd be no problem at all to add a tox screen and have it email your name to your local narcs!
88 posted on 01/04/2002 1:00:30 PM PST by brbethke
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To: Jhoffa_
Since alternatives are always welcome, I suggest that you run for county sheriff. Then, appoint a bunch of like-minded Libertarians (like me!) as your deputies. Then we'll see how often the drug laws are enforced in your county! While you're keeping the peace, we can have your local hooker run for mayor and end the foolish persecution of adults pursuing their own happiness to no one else's detriment. Finally, we can have the local bookie as the chief of police . . .
Hey. Wait a second. This won't work! We already have idiots, whores, and criminals running our government!
89 posted on 01/04/2002 1:00:41 PM PST by T. Rustin Noone
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To: clamper1797
I already thought of that - my cleanout is wired to a claymore hidden under the daffodils.
90 posted on 01/04/2002 1:01:20 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: T. Rustin Noone; r9etb
No Problem.. The Dog will pick it up..
91 posted on 01/04/2002 1:01:51 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Gordian Blade
Re post #69 (like that number) ...

That is a very very good idea !!!!!!

92 posted on 01/04/2002 1:02:52 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: brbethke
There's a simpler solution: just require every "citizen" to install a Twyford V.I.P.!

Too easy to hack. A tightly controlled environment is still the surest way.

93 posted on 01/04/2002 1:05:31 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: dcwusmc
Eh?
94 posted on 01/04/2002 1:05:42 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
How so? Multidwelling stuff.. (apartments and what not) would be the easiest of all..

So now you're going to require existing buildings to re-do their sewers? Who pays for that?

Not that I don't appreciate your underlying concern, but really: the idea is unimplementable.

95 posted on 01/04/2002 1:06:41 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Jhoffa_
Hey Mr. 78 We are all about suggestions..

I got a suggestion. Why don't homeowners start their own water lines and mini-sewage treatement plants. Hey they could have their own gas lines if they wanted too.

Sure there are such things as septic tanks, but it seems if these people have the chance to tap into a water line, they go with the govt. water line. Why doesn't some entreuprenuer market an individual property water/sewage/gas plant. I am guessing it would cost about at a minimum $30,000 initial investment and then spending every weekend for upkeep.

Thanks Jhoffa_ for the quintessential Libertarian ideal of a thread.

96 posted on 01/04/2002 1:12:23 PM PST by Dane
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To: Jhoffa_
I appreciate someone looking for an alternative to no-knock, full on military assaults on people who enjoy a substance that the fed.gov has deemed the possesion of said substance to be a crime right up there with murder, rape, robbery, assault, etc.

However, before we look for any alternatives (which screening their sewage for traces of said substance without a warrant, and maybe even with a warrant, would be right up there with said no-knock full on military raid with abusing at least one of the first ten amendments to the Constitution) how about lets look at the the legality (from a constitutional viewpoint) of the government doing anything to said person who would enjoy said substance.

:^)

In plain language, what makes straining their sewage any more constitutional than just knocking down their door? It would be like forcing you to pee in a cup. Ok, it might be less abusive of them physically, but certainly no less constitutionally.

97 posted on 01/04/2002 1:12:53 PM PST by AKbear
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To: been_lurking
Too easy to hack. A tightly controlled environment is still the surest way.

I suppose, considering that there's already a black market for "clean" urine, for those who need to pass drug tests.

99 posted on 01/04/2002 1:16:16 PM PST by brbethke
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To: Jhoffa_;Dane
This thread puts me in mind of what Solzhenitsyn wrote about in 'Gulag','Cancer Ward', and other works.

Namely, a fussy legalism maintained by the bureaucrats to disguise the tyrannical bulldozing of individuals' 'rights'.

Of course, not everyone here believes in 'rights'.

Take Dane, for instance. Please.

100 posted on 01/04/2002 1:17:50 PM PST by headsonpikes
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