Police shake up daycare workers, kids (Who's at fault - you decide)

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[ProudGenXLibertarian]

No, the police were wrong and should face disciplinary action. But to just give the daycare owners a free pass here isnt being honest either.

[hopespringseternal]

But to just give the daycare owners a free pass here isnt being honest either.

He was beat up and charged with a crime. What more do you want, a public beheading?

If that is what you call a free pass, I would hate to see what you call a slap on the wrist.

[takenoprisoner]

Once again, the cops are wrong here. But the daycare had other options then the ones they chose as well.

I disagree that they had other options. Their number one priority was the protection of those children in their care. They did exactly as I would have done or any other reasonable caretaker of infants and children. No one enters that don't belong period. You got my child, that better be your rule. And two unknown guys in plain clothes don't qualify as someone who belongs. I don't care who they say they are or what badges they may possess. If they are legit, they can call for a patrol car to prove their status and their business.

All I see the daycare workers did wrong was when the men began kicking and bamming on the door they should have called 911 immediately.

[zog]

--in the article the lady said plain clothes, no presented ID I am presuming, and they have had trouble with weirdoes trying to get in before. A common tactic now for badguys breaking into places is just to say they are 'the police" and that's supposed to be enough. No, it ain't enough, they all have gotten too big for their britches the last ten years or so, outta control. They have completely lost any notion of 'right and wrong" they are only interested in giving orders and throwing their weight around mostly. Sadly, the good ones left in cop-dom are getting out, I've talked to several, they refuse to do this nazi-like crap anymore and have quit.

[goodieD]

ummmm how about because they had no search warrant?? or doesn't the Constitution mean anything to you? They showed no paperwork.. why should the daycare people let them in? If someone claiming to be plainclothes police came to your door demanding to be let in..would you just open the door? You are NO libertarian, that's for sure..I believe the Generation X part though.

[harpseal]

To the police issues list

[ProudGenXLibertarian]

NO I wouldnt just let them in, I would have called the police to verify who they were. If they continued to bang on the door I would have called 911 who could have verified them for me. Remember you are only getting one side of the story here. If being a Libertarian, means ALWAYS blaming the government agency than maybe Im not one.

[ProudGenXLibertarian]

I agree with you, also I have several friends who are cops who can tell you about "set-up" situations they have been in. Like the kid in the stolen car they chased for 11 blocks, only to have him ditch the car and run into a house.....to see daddy standing there with a video camera ready to tape the police "brutalizing" his son.

[ProudGenXLibertarian]

Also how do you know they didnt have shields on?? Maybe this lady freaked out, when she saw them at the door and panicked. Im not saying that she was right or wrong, all Im saying is dont judge this until all the facts are in.

[ProudGenXLibertarian]

That happened after the inital incident. In that instance the cops were 100% wrong there.

[takenoprisoner]

I agree with you, also I have several friends who are cops who can tell you about "set-up" situations they have been in. Like the kid in the stolen car they chased for 11 blocks, only to have him ditch the car and run into a house.....to see daddy standing there with a video camera ready to tape the police "brutalizing" his son.

I would think it unwise to chase any suspect into a private home...and not for reasons of fear of some pappa videographer!

[ProudGenXLibertarian]

True, but do we tell the police that they can no longer chase suspects??

[Steve0113]

how do i find the police issues list?

Dunno how it's supposed to be done, but this will work: Do a self-search, then click on "Search". Type "donut watch" in the search box, then click on the "Search" button next to it.

[Bahbah]

You are absolutely right about not letting in someone just because he or she claims to be law enforcement. The piece is not terribly well written but it does seem that these individuals had a warrant. Also, it is not clear to me that they didn't identify themselves. We have only the word of the daycare worker for that. I don't think there are enought facts to make a judgment.

[Steve0113]

Cancel the above -- it won't work. Sorry!

[harpseal]

The key words are donut watch (the police issues list). Yes I have a weird sense of humor.

To find all articles tagged or indexed using above index words

Go here: OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

and then click the topic to initiate the search! !

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[MistrX]

Better safe than sorry.