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To: nopardons
No, here's the deal, YOU explain how President Bush can do everything that you demand that he do. Please state the exact text, in the Constitution.

Oh. So now you are trying to suggest that it is not Ashcroft's responsibility to investigate the possible murder of a Secretary of Commerce (Brown), the possible murder of Vince Foster, the illegal use of FBI files, the selling of US secrets for ILLEGAL campaign contributions from COMMUNISTS, etc. etc. etc. Then whose responsibility is it?

Then, YOU explain how, in wartime and with a slipping economy,he manages to devote time, effort, manpower to trying to convict people, with little to no evidence ( It's al been shreded ! ) with a DEM majority in the same Senate, which has previously given Slick a pass.

First, the DOJ STILL has sufficient manpower to assign people to overriding voter mandated efforts on medical marijuana and assisted suicides. If they've got time and manpower enough to do THAT WHILE this war is going on, then they have the resources to exhume and autopsy TWO bodies, and investigate REALLY SERIOUS matters such as Filegate and Chinagate. This notion that NOW Bush is TOO BUSY to worry about UPHOLDING IMPORTANT LAWS in this country is just plain NONSENSE. Furthermore, his administration had 8 months PRIOR to the terrorist attack to begin investigating. Instead ... they did NOTHING.

Second, much of the evidence has NOT been shredded (of course it hasn't helped that Bush has kept so many democRAT holdovers in important positions). The people in question are still there to be questioned and there is a lot that can STILL be used as leverage. Both Brown's and Foster's bodies are there to be autopsied. This notion that nothing can be done is nothing more than SPIN.

Third, this isn't going to be dealt with by the Senate so whether there is a democRAT majority or not is IMMATERIAL. This is a matter for LAW ENFORCEMENT and the COURTS.

You are claiming that I ( ? ) said that President Bush is as " bad " as Wilson, FDR, LBJ, and Clinton ? IN WHAT UNIVERSE ? Maybe YOU think he is, but I don't.

YOU are the one who tried to compare the Clinton administration scandals to previous ones and suggest that since THEY ALL DO IT, NO PRESIDENT INVESTIGATES A FORMER ONE.

The press, the media, both Houses, and many just " average " citizens would call for his impeachment.

Don't be ridiculous. On what grounds would they call for it? Furthermore, the House of Representatives has to vote for impeachment and who do you think controls the House? This argument is just more SPURIOUS SPIN ...

Instead, try to use your intellect, instead of " feelings ", as a Dem would.

HA! You and the rest of the "move-on'ers" are the ones who FEEL that investigating serious crimes and upholding the law would be bad for the nation. The rest of us just want to see that the CODEFIED LAWS are enforced. Otherwise, why bother to even have laws. Let's just have an anarchy.

This isn't about party; it's about saving what's left of this nation.

Oh nonsense. This is ALL about party. The ONLY reason the GOP isn't investigating these crimes (little things ... like MURDER) is because they FEEL that it will be bad for their reelection chances. And for the democRATS that goes TRIPLE.

It's about doing what CAN be done, instead of demanding the impossible.

That's just your FEELING.

It's about being an adult, rather than a " terrible two " throwing a tantrum.

And that's the way democRATS argue ... by insults and adhominem attacks. Tell me, which laws don't you think we should enforce. Which laws should we repeal (at least as far as our leaders and their PARTY members are concerned). That IS what you are suggesting, you know. I'd just like to know this before I vote for YOUR candidate next time.

NO, TEAPOT DOME wasn't anywhere near as horriffic , as what the Clintons and Co. pulled off; however , what FDR and Co. did was!

And what EXACTLY was that? Did they sell secrets to our enemies? Did they commission the murder of people who threatened them? Did they violate SPECIFIC LAWS to spy on and/or BLACKMAIL the opposing party? Did they use the military to distract attention from their legal troubles? Did they use the IRS against their opponents? Tell us ... what EXACTLY did they do that is half as bad as the crimes committed by the DNC and Clinton administration?

512 posted on 01/07/2002 10:09:57 AM PST by BeAChooser
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To: BeAChooser
Oh nonsense. This is ALL about party. The ONLY reason the GOP isn't investigating these crimes (little things ... like MURDER) is because they FEEL that it will be bad for their reelection chances. And for the democRATS that goes TRIPLE

what you say is true
the GOP may regret this choice
their Members in Congress chose principle (and country) over politics during Impeachment
it caused a flood of inspiration
they now have to return to the old way of doin' politics
riling up their base with false debate
and trying to dupe everyone that they care 'bout principle
Love, Palo
529 posted on 01/07/2002 6:05:08 PM PST by palo verde
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To: BeAChooser
The Republicans are not interested in justice being done any more than the Dems are. The Republicans and Dems are the "same" party in all but name only. Dems are for larger government, and so are the Republicans just in different areas. The Democrats want to tell how you can or cannot spend your money, and the Republicans want to tell you how can or cannot live your life. There are good men and women in both parties, but the parties themselves are a joke, and dinosaurs of the bygone eras. Enron is a perfect example, the Reps wont touch them because there are a HUGE finanicial backer of the President, and the Dems will touch them only to hurt Pres. Bush (who i love, by the way) but Enron handed the money out on that side of the aisle as well. Just as much as I despise "welfare queens" I despise corporate welfare as well. This is a perfect example of the need for campaign finance reform.
545 posted on 01/08/2002 6:01:50 AM PST by ProudGenXLibertarian
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