[Old Fud]

...yet they refuse to discuss what they do that is so offensive to others...

What, that he speaks clearly with regards to abortion, homosexuality, constitutional issues, and the moral cesspool that has become our nation? He discusses it. I'm willing to try. Please cite top-down examples of gop leadership regarding any of the above. That is, from mouth of GW. To my knowledge, there is none, but I'm willing to be corrected.

[Sunsong]

I'm talking about what is offensive about Keyes and his supporters --- their arrogance and put downs of others.

Are you willing to discuss that???

I find it so noteworthy that people who are rude, condescending and arrogant talk about others' supposed lack of morality. Don't you???

[Howlin]

To my knowledge, there is none

Of course, you mean none that you agree with. You're being totally dishonest if you're saying Bush hasn't discussed those issues.