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--oh, bite me. You don't know me and I haven't "given up". That's a bald faced lie, and you failed to address a single point of my original post to boot. What has happened to me is that I-finally and reluctantly, but it happened- realise that most people have stuck to the notion that if they vote in liar A or liar B that anything besides lie A or lie B federal actions will result. THOSE people have given up-given up thinking and looking at the evidence. They are sticking to their ostrich head in the sand cultish belief that somehow "Just one more election cycle" of switching around a group of capital R repubs and capital D dems is going to solve anything substantial, and I contend that is naieve and stupid anymore, to anyone who takes the time to step back and actually LOOK at the evidence.

This lynx fur deal is a real issue, and should be persued, but I'll repeat--so what? So what if all the scientists involved are found guilty, and get jail time? Then what? That's going to stop the land grabs? That's going to stop this juggernaut of federal ownership aned control?

Let's revisit klamath again, shall we? The "science" involved in the klamath situation is so fundamentally flawed as to be ridiculous, EVERYONE involved in it from bush and norton on down the pike to the local street sweeper knows it, and exactly what again has this REPUBLICAN administration done about it? Go ahead, list what they have done to 'fix" this situation. Go ahead, be my guest, show me how the farmers are all un-screwed now, let's see some URL's supporting that notion. How many examples can you find where the constitution and common sense and basic human dignity and 'rightness"is actually followed. I'd like to see them myself.

My bottom line is I merely switched my personal "activism"-which is as strong as it ever was- to what is right and wrong for the US, I don't push some hack political party lying partisan agenda. Let the gooners at DU do that, I ain't interested, and I wish more constitutionalists would follow that as well. I used to, push party politics, but finally had to admit to myself that supporting those lying paid off bribed and blackmailed pieces of crap and those bogus two party's was a no win situation for the nation. That isn't "giving up", that's being realistic and looking at events over decades. I will not support either the political party crips or the bloods, they are both gangs. There's a gang of them at 'the other sites" and there's sure a gang of them here, but at least at freepers there are a few constitutionalists left. I compare what those political gangsters say,and then what happens, it's always two completely different things. They mumble some differnces, but bottom reality is full speed ahead total federal control of the people and material wealth of this nation. I'm just not going to keep biting on their lies anymore, so in that sense, you are right, I "gave up" supporting any liars.