I believe you were already convinced that Pat was right. I don't believe that my post helped you at all; but, thanks for letting me know.
Even in science, proof is empirical.
Everytime the same results are observed, the surer the theory.
Heh. That wasnt directed at me but how would your posts help anyone? You say you agree with the facts presented by Buchanan but you dont like that he brought it up. So how should the problems be presented?