Posted on 12/30/2001 1:25:13 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
I've made a New Year's resolution to stop trying to reason with a brick wall(i.e the Libertarian drugs are freedom crowd).
Probably because the purpose of FreeRepublic is not for the advocacy of drug legalization for the spoiled and jaded.
--- Wrong again, cultist. FR is dedicated, in part, to exposing how our government is abusing our constitution. The 'drug war' is a massive part of that unconstitutional activity, and is thus a legitimate topic. - 50 by tpaine
While that is not in contention, the fact is all we see from the libertarian ideologues here are moral-liberal arguments for allowing people to destroy themselves. That is a far, far cry from what, say, the Constitution Party advocates, since they are not moral-liberal ideologues as the LP members are.
Repeating your pitiful 'ideological' argument that FR discussions of ending the drug war somehow advocate drug use is just more of your insanity on the subject.
We have all heard it, over and over. Time to stuff it, as it is an absurd rant.
I wish them success. They are doing a honorable thing. Unlike illegal drug users.
OIC. Since the Marxist-feminists are supposedly "forcing" parents to drug their boys, therefore it's all okay whatever drug anyone wants to consume, eh? First of all, show me one instance whereby a Marxist school counselor ever "forced" anyone to take a mind-altering drug with impunity, and secondly, what Libertarian ideologue worth her salt would contest the supposed "rights" of parents to medicate their own children as they see fit? Some freedom fighter you turned out to be.
Think about it, as they are your rights too, roscoe.
Sheer, outright lies. NO one here hates the above, any more than you hate libertarians. Right roscoe?
I, personally, oppose open borders while any form of collectivist wealth redistribution remains. I think your LP is skewed to the left more than in other states.
Yeah, its not like addicts create themselves or anything.
Drunken drivers are probably less than 1% of the motorists on the road.
News/Current EventsLooks like we've ferreted out a sock puppet of Lewpy Rockwell, he being the founder and president of the Mises Institute in Auburn, Ala and all.
Source: Ludwig von Mises Institute
One wonders if Ilana Mercer and Lew Rockwell share the same roll of Reynolds Wrap.
A fight against drug addiction is admirable ... particularly where that fight seeks objectively to single out with a standardized criteria those drugs most consistently a means to the self-destruction which inevitably takes others along for the ride to hell and death.
Likewise, I think the argument that no self-respecting individual finds the self-destruction of another a particularly valid "right". Without a doubt, the "right to happiness" as noted by our Declaration has been thoroughly dumbed down from the right to those essential circumstances under which all men may PURSUE their own happiness (privacy, private property, private wealth, sovereignty of person and family pending infringement on another's equal rights to same ...) to a right to impose on others one's peculiar means of satisfying this or that animal urge. Where a right -- such as the "right" to porn or the mother-only "right" to be unpregnant at will -- does not pass the test of universality ... it cannot logically be considered part and parcel of the inalienable "right to pursue happiness".
All of those arguments are valid but they are valid primarily in the PRIVATE sphere wherein consciences are educated, souls and hearts are sparked and one has the opportunity for a purely personal "each one save one" sort of appeal to a higher, truer, more logical and perfectly universal standard ... rather than the "depends on your meaning of is" atomism so clearly the end product of FORCING a lowest common denominator to ensure accomodation oif "personal values".
The question of the Drug War as imposed on this country by the same "moral" federal agents who've set forth abortion as "vital" to our successful population control policies, funded embryonic stem cell research and had the utter audacity to broker "faith-based" partnerships (as modelled on those of our "former communist" friends in Moscow) and launch a "Holy War" in the name of Hammurabi against ignorants and innocents hardly at the center of or responsible for the soviet radicalizing of Islam ... that question is a different question entirely.
I think you have some good points but all are lost when you fail to disassociate the moral argument against drugs from the MORAL argument against this godforsaken War on a Noun known as the Drug War.
If you wish a chapter and verse sort of post, I'm happy to oblige. The evidence is clear that the "War on Drugs" -- just like the rest of the Wars on Nouns -- is nothing but a scourge on all of us and a means to steadily erode our liberties and transform our republic from the inside out into a police state at home and totalitarian "compassionate bomber" dishing out daisy cutters and "misting" innocent lives en masse abroad.
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